mozzaok wrote on Oct 31^st, 2008 at 8:58am:

Exactly.

It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.

The First approach'd the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
"God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!"

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, -"Ho! what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me 'tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!"

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a snake!"

The Fourth reached out his eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
"What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain," quoth he,
"'Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!"

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!"

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Then, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant
Is very like a rope!"

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

MORAL.

So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!

- John Godfrey Saxe

The point is that everybody sees life differently.  Some of us see no trace of an elephant. It's all about awareness as you said.

A Christian would cite Romans 12:3

For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you.

What do you think that verse means?

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tallowood wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 10:02am:


LOL. I've always thought that militant atheists and Christians should work together in an ecumenical sense.

Religion it seems is not too different to an erect penis, capable of making the wisest man, act like a fool.

tallowood wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 9:33pm:

Utter not, your foul mockery of the great Lord Dawkins
And beware the man before you.
For it is he, the Bishop of Mozz,
Who will smite ye down (or crusheth your toe at least)
With his mighty zimmer frame.

mozzaok wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 9:10pm:


This does not go as long and deep as perhaps intended but may well be thicker.

I love to mock religious pretensions as much as the next guy but mocking religion as if they were all the same all thee time and as if they had nothing to say, any of them, ever, is a bit too lazy a generalisation. No applause for a short (ahem) quip is worth it, really.