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Reply #15 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:23am
 
PZ547 wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 4:16pm:
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Had logged out when I saw this and have logged back in to ask where complaints are supposed to be made ?

I've had a quick scan of the list at the top.  Nowhere can I see where member complaints about, for example, attacks on members' computers via their ISP which should be known only to admin and mods, are addressed

Those who've been messed around on this forum will know just how disgusting it is, what a blatant abuse of their privacy and how inclined they feel to bring it to outside attention if it continues without mod or admin action

It's very rare these days to find these sort of tactics taking place on any forum. It was sometimes a problem on last-century online fora, but most forums have kept pace with the times since those bad old days

My computer is of value, as is my time.  I should not have to fear attacks on my computer as result of expressing an opinion in an online forum

When it happens twice, it's difficult to explain away.  Only mods or admin should have access to my personal data or ISP.  What am I to assume -- that Oz Politics mods and/or admin undertook to crash my computer twice, despite I remained away from this forum for several weeks after the first attack?  Or am I to suspect that one or more mods supplied my details to general forum members in order they could crash my computer?  Either way, surely there's an avenue for complaint and the warning of others about it ?

To be told we may not mention these shortcomings of this forum is a bit rich, under the circumstances

And when I went to the 'rules' and looked at the list, there was no specific place advised as the proper destination for valid complaint

I thought I was the only one to have suffered such attacks and invasion of privacy, but a few moments ago saw that others have and are suffering the same problem in this forum

Instead of issuing edicts against memebers' valid complaints, I would have expected forum mods and admin would deal with the cause, that being those unprincipled individuals who are handing out people's private details in order their computers may be attacked

I wouldn't accept this in the street where I live and would immediately summon the police in addition to alerting the media.  Is there nowhere on this forum where forum-police might be alerted in order these attacks on members would be investigated and the culprits dealt with?  Or are those who patronise this forum expected to just take it without complaint ?

Please direct this message to whomever IS prepared to deal with the culprits, rather than chastising the victims


I don't think there is anywhere on the forum for these types of complaints, however, you have clearly articulated what your/our options are I think.

I think this all boils down to desire and motivation to be honest.

Some might find this stuff entertaining to watch - if that includes the controlling hand, well then, clearly the forum is not the place to have much discussion about anything.

Some interesting info....

"Section 474.17 of this Act makes it an offence to use a carriage service[1] “in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, menacing, harassing or offensive.” This holds a penalty of up to three years imprisonment. The threat here may be explicit and contained in the content of the communications, or implicit and inferred by the type of use (i.e. multiple postings on a website), as long as a reasonable person would regard the threat as being menacing, harassing or offensive.

Section 474.15 of this Act provides redress against more aggressive acts, and makes it an offence to use a carriage service to threaten to cause serious harm (punishable by seven years imprisonment) or to threaten to kill (punishable by ten years imprisonment).

The threats referred to in this section may be directed at either the person receiving the messages (the recipient) or another person altogether, as an offence will be established only where the bully intends that the recipient fears that the threat will be carried out. [2] Thus, the recipient need not actually fear that the threat will be carried out, it only needs to be intended that they do. This is significant as it may be difficult to prove this subjective intention in a courtroom.

By changing this element of subjective intention to an objective question of whether a reasonable person, after receiving such a threat, would be fearful, the difficulties in proving that a cyber-bullying offender actually intended that their victim is fearful would be overcome."

That is from "the misuse of telecommunications act" (Federal Law)...

Just one thing for all to consider.


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Reply #16 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:26am
 
A truly fascinating thing here is that cyber bullying is generally thought of as a school age issue... How wrong that thinking appears to be.
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Reply #17 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:41am
 
Phemanderac wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:26am:
A truly fascinating thing here is that cyber bullying is generally thought of as a school age issue... How wrong that thinking appears to be.



thats where it starts. phem.. and once upon a time we grew up and stopped doing it...

sadly due to cyberspace we dont grow up like ,we once did...its an on going thing... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

its almost as if they think they have a right to abuse like they do....

its like porn and bomb making...its all there if you try hard enough to find it...and there is always someone who wants to find it....same with bullying...some people think they are being funny.....skippies like that.. says what he likes about myself...even wished me dead at one stage...but he soon got me banned for something he found hurt his little feelings..

how do I know that he told me...

this instrument if you like.. can make or break simple !as that it in itself is abused

it is up to the user to treat people as they wish to be treated.....

there are no rules on the computer......as we see every day on here...[where there are a few rules] as they ban someone they morph into someone else..what a waste of time..
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Reply #18 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:06am
 
cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:41am:
Phemanderac wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:26am:
A truly fascinating thing here is that cyber bullying is generally thought of as a school age issue... How wrong that thinking appears to be.



thats where it starts. phem.. and once upon a time we grew up and stopped doing it...

sadly due to cyberspace we dont grow up like ,we once did...its an on going thing... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

its almost as if they think they have a right to abuse like they do....

its like porn and bomb making...its all there if you try hard enough to find it...and there is always someone who wants to find it....same with bullying...some people think they are being funny.....skippies like that.. says what he likes about myself...even wished me dead at one stage...but he soon got me banned for something he found hurt his little feelings..

how do I know that he told me...

this instrument if you like.. can make or break simple !as that it in itself is abused

it is up to the user to treat people as they wish to be treated.....

there are no rules on the computer......as we see every day on here...[where there are a few rules] as they ban someone they morph into someone else..what a waste of time..


I disagree with a fair bit of that Cods.

Firstly, throughout history only ever SOME grew out of bullying behaviour. What we (society) did, was mostly ignore it. Worse, some bullies ended up in professional positions where their "bullying" was, at some level, considered an asset - perhaps that tide is slowly turning.

Further, no instrument is broken per se. The framework might not be up to scratch though - the guidelines, rules, enforcment etc etc etc might not either through desire or capacity, be up to the task. That is about more than just this forum though, hence we not only still have bullying as a social issue, with the internet, bullies have been somewhat further empowered. It is a work in progress I suspect.

Back to this space, personally I have not been convinced that the "admin" necessarily is up to stopping online bullying in this particular sandpit. I make no comment as to whether that is through capacity or desire.

Therefore, the options for those feeling victimised in anyway is to take the matter up legally - whilst I am not a fan of the AFP that would be the first port of call - they at least promote themselves to be, in part, about addressing issues of cyber bullying.

Now, I suspect many of the vexatious complaints raised here would not get a run with the AFP - not all though, I have seen comments that I suspect would get more interest that simply a raised eye brow.

That paragraph also highlights what I would consider the major dilemma for those individuals who volunteer their time to try to keep the place safe to post in. Clearly, none are trained to sift through what is vexatious and what is genuine. I imagine, if they care, they would at times feel enormous pressure. Of course, like all of us, some might not particularly care as such, and simply use their personal perspective, feelings and view of poster/complainer etc as the benchmark for their decision making - clearly, that is problematic.
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Reply #19 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:11am
 
Also, Cods, to be fair, Skippy and others have made complaints about posters, abuse, security etc.

It is simple for all of us to make our judgements about this stuff, however, it won't go away that easily.

So, I throw the challenge out to the interlopers (I would totally disqualify myself from "judgement" at any official level, because, based on personal experience my mind is made up about some, and not in a positive way) and residents alike - if you really feel wronged and your even just a little bit fair dinkum, take the matter up legally.

Any other option simply is a continuation and potential escalation of current issues. I doubt admin of the board can actually stop this ongoing cyber bullying campaign and am not convinced of the voracity of the site owner to put a halt to it. Of course, with regard to the site owner, I am more than happy to stand corrected, however, actions not words will do that little jobby...
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Reply #20 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:25am
 
cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:41am:
Phemanderac wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:26am:
A truly fascinating thing here is that cyber bullying is generally thought of as a school age issue... How wrong that thinking appears to be.



thats where it starts. phem.. and once upon a time we grew up and stopped doing it...

sadly due to cyberspace we dont grow up like ,we once did...its an on going thing... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

its almost as if they think they have a right to abuse like they do....

its like porn and bomb making...its all there if you try hard enough to find it...and there is always someone who wants to find it....same with bullying...some people think they are being funny.....skippies like that.. says what he likes about myself...even wished me dead at one stage...but he soon got me banned for something he found hurt his little feelings..

how do I know that he told me...

this instrument if you like.. can make or break simple !as that it in itself is abused

it is up to the user to treat people as they wish to be treated.....

there are no rules on the computer......as we see every day on here...[where there are a few rules] as they ban someone they morph into someone else..what a waste of time..

I see the forums biggest troll still has the hots for me. It talks about me constantly it wants skippy lovin baaaaaaad.
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Reply #21 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:43am
 
Phemanderac wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:11am:
Also, Cods, to be fair, Skippy and others have made complaints about posters, abuse, security etc.

It is simple for all of us to make our judgements about this stuff, however, it won't go away that easily.

So, I throw the challenge out to the interlopers (I would totally disqualify myself from "judgement" at any official level, because, based on personal experience my mind is made up about some, and not in a positive way) and residents alike - if you really feel wronged and your even just a little bit fair dinkum, take the matter up legally.

Any other option simply is a continuation and potential escalation of current issues. I doubt admin of the board can actually stop this ongoing cyber bullying campaign and am not convinced of the voracity of the site owner to put a halt to it. Of course, with regard to the site owner, I am more than happy to stand corrected, however, actions not words will do that little jobby...



true I dont begrudge skippy using his own POWER he claims he is on speaking terms with fd...however skippy and i have been at the same stage since we came on the forum.. all of a sudden he is reporting me..fine... at least I know where I stand...pathetic miserable but fine...

I do think there is a certain amount of favortisim on here...but thats to be expected you cant like everyone...and if a person pings a mod off and someone complains about said person good excuse isnt it??...

I am not complaining just explaining...as I have mentioned elsewhere a bit of biff makes it all the more interesting. as long as it doesnt  turn ugly....and to be honest i find the females worse than the blokes...when it comes to UGLY..which saddens me no end.as I doubt any of them are anywhere near my age.. and they are horrible.....for young women.. bloody sad.
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Reply #22 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:46am
 
skippy. wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:25am:
cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:41am:
Phemanderac wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 8:26am:
A truly fascinating thing here is that cyber bullying is generally thought of as a school age issue... How wrong that thinking appears to be.



thats where it starts. phem.. and once upon a time we grew up and stopped doing it...

sadly due to cyberspace we dont grow up like ,we once did...its an on going thing... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

its almost as if they think they have a right to abuse like they do....

its like porn and bomb making...its all there if you try hard enough to find it...and there is always someone who wants to find it....same with bullying...some people think they are being funny.....skippies like that.. says what he likes about myself...even wished me dead at one stage...but he soon got me banned for something he found hurt his little feelings..

how do I know that he told me...

this instrument if you like.. can make or break simple !as that it in itself is abused

it is up to the user to treat people as they wish to be treated.....

there are no rules on the computer......as we see every day on here...[where there are a few rules] as they ban someone they morph into someone else..what a waste of time..

I see the forums biggest troll still has the hots for me. It talks about me constantly it wants skippy lovin baaaaaaad.



well I am not surprised you read the trolls.. it takes one to know one..

as this will hopfully be the last tim e I will engage with you.. I dont like dobbers....now bitch about that??...

I will endeavor not to mention the S word in my posts again....believe me it isnt because I want to mention the S word...but some stories need to be told....
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Reply #23 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:50am
 
I bet you can't. I set you a goal a couple of days ago to stop mentioning me in every post and you failed miserably, at least you're consistent.
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Reply #24 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:58am
 
skippy. wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:50am:
I bet you can't. I set you a goal a couple of days ago to stop mentioning me in every post and you failed miserably, at least you're consistent.


Well, to be fair, Cods by no means has the being consistent market cornered, you for example, don't do too badly - along with myriad others.
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Reply #25 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 10:04am
 
Phemanderac wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:58am:
skippy. wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:50am:
I bet you can't. I set you a goal a couple of days ago to stop mentioning me in every post and you failed miserably, at least you're consistent.


Well, to be fair, Cods by no means has the being consistent market cornered, you for example, don't do too badly - along with myriad others.

Are you still here trying to troll sweet cheeks? I'd have thought you'd have learnt by now you're boring no body can be bothered with your new sock anymore than they cared about your last ten. Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 10:15am
 
skippy. wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 10:04am:
Phemanderac wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:58am:
skippy. wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:50am:
I bet you can't. I set you a goal a couple of days ago to stop mentioning me in every post and you failed miserably, at least you're consistent.


Well, to be fair, Cods by no means has the being consistent market cornered, you for example, don't do too badly - along with myriad others.

Are you still here trying to troll sweet cheeks? I'd have thought you'd have learnt by now you're boring no body can be bothered with your new sock anymore than they cared about your last ten. Roll Eyes



There ya go a perfect example, consistency.

Cheers  Grin Grin
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