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anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality
Nov 9^th, 2008 at 9:07am

Myth:
"Since its inception, Christianity has associated Satan with imagery of goats (see Pan (mythology)). A common superstition in the Middle Ages was that goats whispered lewd sentences in the ears of the saints. The origin of this belief was probably the behavior of the buck in rut, the very epitome of lust. The common medieval depiction of the Devil was that of a goat like face with horns and small beard (a goatee). The Black Mass, a probably-mythological "Satanic mass," was said to involve a black goat, the form in which Satan supposedly manifested himself for worship."

Reality:
"Jesus is thought to have been born on December 25, which would have made him a Capricorn. The zodiac symbol for Capricorn is a goat."

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Reply #1 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 9:29am

tallowood wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 9:07am:

Myth:
"Since its inception, Christianity has associated Satan with imagery of goats (see Pan (mythology)). A common superstition in the Middle Ages was that goats whispered lewd sentences in the ears of the saints. The origin of this belief was probably the behavior of the buck in rut, the very epitome of lust. The common medieval depiction of the Devil was that of a goat like face with horns and small beard (a goatee). The Black Mass, a probably-mythological "Satanic mass," was said to involve a black goat, the form in which Satan supposedly manifested himself for worship."

Reality:
"Jesus is thought to have been born on December 25, which would have made him a Capricorn. The zodiac symbol for Capricorn is a goat."

Fact: Christians are commanded by the bible to reject things such as astrology and fortune tellers and that kind of stuff.

Therefore, your Capricorn claim is irrelevent to Christians and has no basis in Christian thought.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #2 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:00am Jesus also had a goatee beard
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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #3 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:03am That's not Jesus, that's a drawing. He might have been a hunchback with a crater face for all we know.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #4 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:42am easel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:03am: That's not Jesus, that's a drawing. He might have been a hunchback with a crater face for all we know. For all we know the Devil may look like a rabbit and not like a goat, which means that Church's anti-goat stance is a baseless conspiracy theory.
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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #5 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:54am Eff the church. The devil can take on any form it so desires.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #6 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 11:05am easel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:54am: Eff the church. The devil can take on any form it so desires. That means that Jesus could've been the devil and to hide it he commanded to ignore zodiac evidence of the goat association with real Jesus and supported the disgusting practice of goats genocide.
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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #7 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 11:18am Except in the Bible we are taught satan has control of the world, and Jesus was in battle against the rulers of the world, and hardly had political power, all he had was faith and the faithful. Going by that, Jesus could hardly have been the devil.
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Reply #8 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 11:45am

easel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 11:18am:

Except in the Bible we are taught satan has control of the world, and Jesus was in battle against the rulers of the world, and hardly had political power, all he had was faith and the faithful.

Going by that, Jesus could hardly have been the devil.

By the same token a goat hardly can be the devil either. Furthermore considering bible story about The Apple and knowing goat's gastronomic habits the conclusion can be made that if the devil was a goat and not a snake then Adam and Eve still would be childless in the Paradise with no apple trees in sight.

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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #9 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 11:52am Where is it mentioned in the Bible that the fruit was an apple? The devil can be anything, not just a snake.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #10 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 11:58am easel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 11:52am: Where is it mentioned in the Bible that the fruit was an apple? The devil can be anything, not just a snake. That is immaterial as goats would eat any fruit tree instead of leaving them to humans. Actually they even eat lantana and blackberry bushes.
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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #11 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 12:03pm I'm bored of this now.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #12 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 8:16pm easel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 12:03pm: I'm bored of this now. Cheer up, here's something to put a new perspectivee on things: http://www.jesusandmo.net/2006/03/21/pets/
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Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality
Reply #13 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 9:25pm

Soren wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 8:16pm:

easel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2008 at 12:03pm:

I'm bored of this now.

Cheer up, here's something to put a new perspectivee on things:

http://www.jesusandmo.net/2006/03/21/pets/

Yes, cheer up, esel, I'm tired too, did fair distance on kayak today.

Soren, have you noticed that Jesus has goatee beard on the picture you have provided?
Also I get now pop up about the "Story of Satan" and Satan on this pop up has no facial hair at all.
BTW, if Mo talks Jesus into getting a goat as pet I would recommend Australian Miniature Goat. here is the guide lines
http://www.australianminiaturegoat.com.au/b_type2breedstandards.htm

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49241 At my desk.	Re: anti goat conspiracy-myth and reality Reply #14 - Nov 9^th, 2008 at 10:12pm They do look like they'd make nice pets - cheaper to feed than a dog.
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