Not fickle..
Not little...

3 strikes and you'll be out ...

Care to list the Muslim states apart from Saudi you think are bad?

Gonna be a short list isn't it.  

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 12^th, 2008 at 12:31pm:




Sprint,

Not if we choose to give [our] power to the spirit of this world.




We are all [spirits from God] gone astray in this world.

The worldly things [which we have 'in our face', every day] are our bondage.

We are in bondage, in this earth.

The spirit of God, and the spirit of truth, is freedom.



John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
27  And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Philippians 3:18
(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19  Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15  For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:


......"WE, WHEN WE WERE CHILDREN, WERE IN BONDAGE UNDER THE ELEMENTS OF THE WORLD."

Galatians 4:1-7
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?t=KJV&x=0&y=0&b=Gal&c=4&v=1

Well come on ... I'm still waiting...

No amount of saying one thing and failing to back it up with facts is gonna save your hide on this one.

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abu_rashid wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 6:31am:






abu,

It is no use ppl in Arab countries [or ppl such as yourself!] blaming infidel governments, for the things which they, themselves arabs, tolerate.

If there are any real, real, real, muslims, in those countries, they can't blame their fate upon others.

If muslims, in muslim countries really, really, wanted Sharia, no force could resist them, no force could resist their combined will.

The overwhelming muslim desire for Sharia would prevail.



If they were indeed real muslims, they would have already set up Sharia jurisdictions.

Abu,
In fact, an outsider would have to say, that, that is is exactly what arabs have got.

Exactly what they desire.

But muslims being muslims, they can see it is not ideal, the Sharia systems which many of them claim to have already achieved.

But the many societal faults, is not with their system, not with Sharia.

Oh no!

The fault lies with those infidels, across the seas, and on the other side of the planet!!!

Its a conspiracy, of the infidels, against muslims!!!
[ROFLOL]



Well abu, if muslims want a perfect religion, Sharia, they could fight for "Allah's way", for a Sharia jurisdiction, and be laying down their lives to achieve Allah's perfect state.

Oh!

Is that is what is happening, with all of the car bombings, in muslim nations????

The holy fighters for Allah, are doing their best are they???




Benazir Bhutto killed in attack
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7161590.stm

As instructed, in the Koran & Hadith.

After all, real muslims obey Allah, and have no fear of fighting for Allah, surely???

Aren't muslims, all holy warriors for Allah?





So, in making your argument you can't have it both ways.

......"Allah is great, and all powerful, and just."

"But the infidels [across the seas, and on the other side of the planet!!!] just won't let us muslims set up real Sharia jurisdictions.
And their oppression of us, is the reason why there is so much injustice and violence among us muslims.
Because we muslims are not prepared to sacrifice anything, to get justice and truth.
It is so much easier, just to blame the infidels for everything wrong in our society, rather than be REAL MUSLIMS, living in a REAL SHARIA JURISDICTION."

"We are muslims who want Sharia - but the infidels won't let us have it."

"We are muslims who want Sharia - but we don't want to die trying, fighting, for it."

/sarc off



This is just more muslim deflection, of SELF-responsibility.

i.e. 'We muslims are not responsible for anything bad happening! If something bad happens. It was caused by an infidel.'

Just more of the ISLAMIC mindbend.....

ISLAM, muslims, good.
Everyone else, bad.

Ok, if you can't scroll up and read for yourself...

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Come on abu...  like sprint says that can't be right.
hence I want a list and reasons.

Getting back to the opening question, isn't one of the qualities that god wants from people humility and isn't calling yourself "god's people" the epitome of arrogance?

just a thought.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 13^th, 2008 at 10:01pm:


agnostics yeah i can see that, but i don't see how one can reject god and still be "god's person/people". (atheists)