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Nov 14th, 2008 at 1:26pm
 
Is this a rule, or just a tradition?

Why do converts change their name?
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Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 2:09pm
 
It's more of a tradition than a rule.

For the first name, it is advised to change it if the meaning is negative. For example, someone who reverts and has the name Seth (meaning evil god of chaos according to one name meaning website) or perhaps Cameron (meaning crooked nose) might want to change their names for something with a more positive meaning.

For example, my first name is Emily. It comes from the Latin "Aemilia" meaning flattering one, or industrious/hardworking one. So that's a nice meaning that I'm happy with. I do have a nickname that I go by which is Amal. In Arabic, Amal means Hope, and Amali (which is Amal with the consonant 'ya'/long vowel 'ii' attached to it) means my Hope and is the way Arabs spell the name Emily in Arabic.

Generally you're supposed to keep your surname, even if it has a bad meaning.

A lot of converts do like to take Arabic names when they enter Islam as part of their new identities as Muslims, but it's usually a personal choice. There are some born-Muslims who might tell new converts that they have to change their names, but they would be mistaken based on what I've read of the traditions of the early Muslim community. I haven't found any tradition on injunction that makes it a requirement to change ones name.

ON the completely opposite side, I've met Muslims who absolutely refused to call me by any name other than the name my parents gave me, so there are definitely differences of opinion in this area.

On a side note... I find it completely weird that Seth means evil god of chaos, but that's what the name site I got it from said. In the Gnostic Christian tradition, Seth was one of the children of Adam and Eve, and was the pure line of humanity from which Jesus (pbuh) was descended. Oh well, Allahu A3lam (God knows) who comes up with these meanings. Smiley
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Reply #2 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 2:15pm
 
That makes it sound like they are taking mysticism seriously.
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Reply #3 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 2:57pm
 
I originally thought it was Muhammed's surname, pronounced poobah.
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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 3:33pm
 
nopies- just peace be upon him
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Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 4:40pm
 
So has there never been a peace be upon her?
If not why not?
I note several names followed by pbuh
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Reply #6 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 4:44pm
 
It's just a lot of fizzy drinks.

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Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 4:52pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 14th, 2008 at 4:40pm:
So has there never been a peace be upon her?
If not why not?
I note several names followed by pbuh


hold on....I must be thinking along differnt lines

I thought you were referring specifically to when people said it after muhammed

my mistake!

yes it can be her or him to my knowledge
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Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 4:58pm
 
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So has there never been a peace be upon her?


I'm pretty sure I've said it after Maryam's (pbuh) name, ie. the mother of Jesus (pbuh).on here whenever I've mentioned her. It is mostly used for Prophets (but not exclusively), but is sometimes used after the names of Maryam, Haajar, Sara, Asiya and other extremely pious/holy women from history (pbut).
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Reply #9 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 6:28pm
 
So no current women only men?
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Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 6:42pm
 
pbuh - it is so false, ostentetiously insincere.

Who can imagine that any really pious person would abbreviate a blessing, make it into an anagram! The very idea of a blessing is to pronounce, to breathe, to embody the blessing in one's life, the breath, to en-soul. To pause and honour.

People who pepper their writing with pbuh are  merely jostling and shouting to the gallery, yet in their hearts there is room and time for an anagram only. If they can't be faggged to utter a brief blessing in full, they should leave out the phoney, impious burping.


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Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 6:55pm
 
I tend to agree with that soren.
But then that tallies with the look at us we are different...  we don't want to fit in why are you treating us like outsiders attitude.
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Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 7:10pm
 

Yeh we invoke blessings on prophets to look different  Grin

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So no current women only men?


Current? Come again. As per usual, I'm really struggling to decipher what exactly it is you're trying to ask Grendel, can you be a little clearer in what you're asking?
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 7:11pm
 
perfectly clear to me...
maybe you should try harder...

lol and I'm sure in earlier days they all ran around saying p b u h moh or whatever the equivalence in Arabic is. Grin
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Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2008 at 7:22pm
 
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perfectly clear to me...


Since your brain came up with the question, I'm sure it has no troubling finding the answer to it. That doesn't help the rest of us  Smiley

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