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Re: pbuh
Reply #60 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:31pm

freediver wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:25pm:

Isn't it disrespectful to your audience to populate your writing with acronyms you do not intend them to understand?

A lot of people are quite vocal in their criticism of the unnecessary use of technical or unfamiliar acronyms, and justifiably so. But even in that case the author does generally expect the audience to understand. He does it more out of ignorance (of the ignorance of others).

You'd have a point if he wrote it in Arabic or he used dozens of acronyms. But the meaning of pbuh is easy enough to source... It's also commonly used by Muslims so its hardly an esoteric riddle.

I just can't imagine why anyone would find it so offensive or irritating that they'd have to angst over it.

Bit like that ridiculous thread about whether and why Muslims shaved their public hairs.

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Reply #61 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:47pm

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You'd have a point if he wrote it in Arabic or he used dozens of acronyms

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I'd also have a point if he used a single unfamiliar acronym.

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But the meaning of pbuh is easy enough to source...

Same with any acronym. That doesn't mean their use isn't disrespectful to your audience.

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It's also commonly used by Muslims so its hardly an esoteric riddle.

The fact that the author understands it does not mean it isn't disrespectful to his audience.

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I just can't imagine why anyone would find it so offensive or irritating that they'd have to angst over it.

I don't recall anyone mentioning offense, irritation or angst.

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Bit like that ridiculous thread about whether and why Muslims shaved their public hairs.

I actually found that quite interesting, in a morbid kind of way.

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Reply #62 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:53pm

freediver wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:47pm:

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You'd have a point if he wrote it in Arabic or he used dozens of acronyms

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I'd also have a point if he used a single unfamiliar acronym.

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Bit like that ridiculous thread about whether and why Muslims shaved their public hairs.

I actually found that quite interesting, in a morbid kind of way.

It was unfamiliar to you? So much to say about Islam and that one got away on you?

You found it quite interesting... in a morbid kind of way?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: pbuh Reply #63 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:54pm abu_rashid wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 4:36pm: Quote: Don't subject your non-muslim interlocutors like me to it if it is a prayer to god. If you don't like it, feel free to exit the thread, or the forum. Nobody is forcing you to be here... having to listen to it. You mean, let the turkeys get/wear me down?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: pbuh Reply #64 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:56pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:10pm: Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:07pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 4:58pm: Another pointless thread bumbles on to futility. Hell, Ian, don't they all?!?! Not all, but some more than others... Sore N!! It's pronounced Sir N.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48814 At my desk.	Re: pbuh Reply #65 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:56pm Quote: It was unfamiliar to you? So much to say about Islam and that one got away on you? I don't have a lot to say. I have a lot of questions to ask. That was one of them. I knew almost nothing about Islam before Malik turned up here.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: pbuh Reply #66 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:01pm Me too - i knew very little about islam until 2001 and was much happier for it. Now it's in my face every day. You've to got annoy them Mohammedans back, surely. They can't have all the fun of being annoying.
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Reply #67 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:04pm

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:56pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:07pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 4:58pm:

Another pointless thread bumbles on to futility.

Hell, Ian, don't they all?!?!

Not all, but some more than others... Sore N!!

It's pronounced Sir N.

Well enschuldegung, Mein Herr.

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Phillip Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 66	Re: pbuh Reply #68 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:43pm freediver wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:56pm: Quote: It was unfamiliar to you? So much to say about Islam and that one got away on you? I don't have a lot to say. I have a lot of questions to ask. That was one of them. I knew almost nothing about Islam before Malik turned up here. Feel free to start one thread and ask them.
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Reply #69 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:56pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:04pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:56pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:07pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 4:58pm:

Another pointless thread bumbles on to futility.

Hell, Ian, don't they all?!?!

Not all, but some more than others... Sore N!!

It's pronounced Sir N.

Well enschuldegung, Mein Herr.

I forgive you. Rise.

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: pbuh Reply #70 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 7:58pm Sorry to get off topic - but I just noticed another Abu as a new member. Does Abu mean Mister in Islam?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: pbuh Reply #71 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 8:19pm mantra wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 7:58pm: Does Abu mean Mister in Islam? No. It means 'proprietor', especially Kwik-E-Mart proprietor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Apu.png
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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: pbuh Reply #72 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 8:39pm Quote: Does Abu mean Mister in Islam? No. It means 'proprietor', especially Kwik-E-Mart proprietor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Apu.png Can you laugh on this forum? That was so funny soren - but you've got it mixed up - Apu means proprietor.
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Reply #73 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 9:05pm

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:56pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:04pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:56pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 5:07pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 4:58pm:

Another pointless thread bumbles on to futility.

Hell, Ian, don't they all?!?!

Not all, but some more than others... Sore N!!

It's pronounced Sir N.

Well enschuldegung, Mein Herr.

I forgive you. Rise.

And lo, he didst rise… and soon he didst rise so high that he could see for bloody miles.

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Reply #74 - Nov 15^th, 2008 at 9:21pm

mantra wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 8:39pm:

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Does Abu mean Mister in Islam?

No. It means 'proprietor', especially Kwik-E-Mart proprietor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Apu.png

Can you laugh on this forum? That was so funny soren Grin

- but you've got it mixed up - Apu means proprietor.

No mix up - Apu is in the punjabi dialect which is in fact the closest to the original sanskrit from where the arabic Abu also derives. Plural - Abba.

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