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Re: democracy
Reply #150 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:12pm
 
falah wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 12:59pm:
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There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.


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Democracy is not the solution.


You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket statments, what is the solution?



Islam is the solution.


Is there a contradiction between Islam and democracy?

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Haha you can say what you want about Islamic rule but don't try and lie to people and say we or they have a democracy


I think Falah is trying to say the opposite - that Islam cannot have democracy.
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Reply #151 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:14pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:12pm:
falah wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 12:59pm:
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There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.


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Democracy is not the solution.


You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket statments, what is the solution?



Islam is the solution.


Is there a contradiction between Islam and democracy?

Why are you so obsessed with them fd?
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Reply #152 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:14pm
 
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Why are you so obsessed with them fd?


Why are you so obsessed with defending Islam?
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Reply #153 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:14pm:
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Why are you so obsessed with them fd?


Why are you so obsessed with defending Islam?

I don't defend them I just reserve the same rights for them as you would want for the West
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Reply #154 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:20pm
 
fd, you and your cronies Yadda & Soren are the only ones here that appear obsessed.

You are all convinced the entire Muslim world is out to get you, and I  guess it's probably part of you finally realising the Western world is causing a lot of grief to various Muslim populations around the world, and therefore you expect them to be out to get you. Bit of a guilty conscience it seems?
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Reply #155 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:22pm
 
Abu, Muslims have enough trouble getting each other, let alone anyone else. Which part of 'impotent' don't you get?
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Reply #156 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:28pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:05pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:02pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 2:00pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:52pm:
falah wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 12:59pm:
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There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.


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Democracy is not the solution.


You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket atatments, what is the solution?



Islam is the solution.


Lol. Replace governments elected by the people with some fascist system based on an invisible sky pixie.

How did you graduate from university?
Let me guess, you graduated from the Humanities or Social Sciences?

Haha you can say what you want about Islamic rule but don't try and lie to people and say we or they have a democracy


Then why do people vote them in?

Yes voting really does legitimise it doesn't it.


What does that mean?
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Reply #157 - Jun 19th, 2012 at 12:53am
 
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Reply #158 - Jun 19th, 2012 at 7:30pm
 
falah wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 12:59pm:
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There are many different types of democracy. So I will not give a blanket statment regarding all.


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Democracy is not the solution.


You appear to be contradicting yourself again Falah. Anyway, while you are in the mood for blanket statments, what is the solution?



Islam is the solution.


Is there a contradiction between Islam and democracy?

Can you have both?
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Reply #159 - Sep 2nd, 2013 at 10:04pm
 
From the "Islamophobes retarded" thread, which got a bit sidetracked onto other topics:

True Colours wrote on Aug 31st, 2013 at 3:51pm:
The assertion was that Islam and democracy are not compatible.

However, there is no reason to think that Islam and democracy are incompatible, as there are precedents for electing a leader - as was the case of the early caliphs.

There was even a history of female representation in Islam.



The other assertion is that everybody in Australia must be some kind of anarchist liberal who thinks that anything goes. That idea is kind of a contradiction in terms; "we are liberal - as long as you think exactly like us".

You have to wonder if Freediver, or whichever alias he uses at the moment, would have the orthodox Jews, or the Catholics, or the Marxists, or the Christian Brethren, or the Evangelicals forced to believe in his system of no rules.

The truth is Freediver and his pseudonyms are the real enemies of freedom.


freediver wrote on Aug 31st, 2013 at 4:04pm:
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However, there is no reason to think that Islam and democracy are incompatible, as there are precedents for electing a leader - as was the case of the early caliphs.


We have been given several explanations from Muslims here on this forum for why the two are incompatible (while still insisting just as you do that Islam is democratic). Some examples:

Only men may vote.
Only Muslims may vote.
Only Muslim men may stand for election.
Islamic law is the only platform on which candidates may stand.
Any elected leader who falls short of what the mob considers to be proper Islamic law is to be killed.

Hardly sounds democratic to me.

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There was even a history of female representation in Islam.


So you keep saying. Can you elaborate please?

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