Quote:What I'm poking at, is, are there underlying principles, which even trump the "will of the people"? If you answer no, then I'm sure you can, in some way, understand my opposition to Democracy.
Sure there are, but that doesn't lead to the rejection of democracy. It's like you are saying that democracy can't work because you can't vote out the law of gravity.
Quote:If you answer yes... then you admit Democracy is not just a method of selecting a leader, or legislation directly, but is a set of principles and values that go much deeper (an ideology if you will). Which is what I've said all along, and what you've denied all along.
I'm denying it because it is not true. Democracy and freedom for example are a set of two principles and values. Democracy is one principle. Freedom is one principle. It only becomes a set when you put the two together. I have no idea why you assume that democracy by definition involves all those other principles. Is there some kind of logic behind that?
Quote:Just a question, if the will of the majority decides to have only Shari'ah, do you accept that as Democratic?
Sure, that would be democratic. I am of course assuming that the undemocratic aspects of Shariah (eg the forbidding of democracy) are left out here. But if people decide to vote in medieval laws like chopping of hands, it is democratic.
Quote:Likwise one could argue that the Australian system only allows those who intend to implement the secular/democratic laws to run...
Not exaclty. Democracy is fragile. You cannot directly prevent those who oppose democracy from gaining power and disposing of democracy.
Quote:Why is it different? Because you just happen to agree with one set of laws and not the other?
What is different?
Quote:With all that above a democracy is still 100% better then theocracy because if small minority of perverts decides to to legalise
According to Rintrah (I think) Islam does not actually mandate theocracy, but rather dictatorship, with the clerics (you know, the ones that don't exist) as backseat drivers.