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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48814 At my desk.	Re: democracy Reply #90 - Jun 7^th, 2012 at 6:16pm Falah, can you explain how democracy works in Islam?
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: democracy Reply #91 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:11am Can you explain how democracy works in the Catholic church?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48814 At my desk.	Re: democracy Reply #92 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 12:50pm No. Let's try a third time: can you explain how democracy works in Islam?
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: democracy Reply #93 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 7:17pm freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 12:50pm: No. Let's try a third time: can you explain how democracy works in Islam? If you are really curious, go ask a scholar.
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Reply #94 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 7:29pm

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 12:50pm:

No.

Let's try a third time: can you explain how democracy works in Islam?

If you are really curious, go ask a scholar.

If you can't say, why do you ever say anything about Islam as a Muslim??

Not for you to utter. Leave it to scholars and be silent.

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Reply #95 - Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:15pm

falah wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 12:50pm:

No.

Let's try a third time: can you explain how democracy works in Islam?

If you are really curious, go ask a scholar.

You are the one who claimed that Islam does not prohibit people from voting. Are you now saying you don't actually know? Or is it that you do know and you realise you are wrong, but cannot bring yourself to admit the truth about Islam?

I am not asking for the detailed minutia. Just simple things like who is allowed to vote and what mandate the winner has.

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Reply #96 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:22am

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

You are the one who claimed that Islam does not prohibit people from voting. Are you now saying you don't actually know? Or is it that you do know and you realise you are wrong, but cannot bring yourself to admit the truth about Islam?

I am not asking for the detailed minutia. Just simple things like who is allowed to vote and what mandate the winner has.

I find no prohibition on voting.

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Reply #97 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 9:24am

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

You are the one who claimed that Islam does not prohibit people from voting. Are you now saying you don't actually know? Or is it that you do know and you realise you are wrong, but cannot bring yourself to admit the truth about Islam?

I am not asking for the detailed minutia. Just simple things like who is allowed to vote and what mandate the winner has.

I find no prohibition on voting.

So a Jew can vote for who gets to be Caliph?

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Reply #98 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 11:26am

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 9:24am:

falah wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

You are the one who claimed that Islam does not prohibit people from voting. Are you now saying you don't actually know? Or is it that you do know and you realise you are wrong, but cannot bring yourself to admit the truth about Islam?

I am not asking for the detailed minutia. Just simple things like who is allowed to vote and what mandate the winner has.

I find no prohibition on voting.

So a Jew can vote for who gets to be Caliph?

Can a permanent resident vote for who gets to be prime minister of Australia?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48814 At my desk.	Re: democracy Reply #99 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 12:09pm Can you ever give a straight answer Falah?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: democracy Reply #100 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 1:01pm By "straight" do you perchance mean one that doesn't expose the absolute idiocy of your pestering questions?
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Reply #101 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 1:05pm

Why are they idiotic? Falah is the one who contradicted me on Islam and democracy. I am just giving him a chance to explain why he accused me of lying about it. If I am wrong, why is he so afraid to explain why? He has no trouble talking about who can and cannot vote in Australia. Why is he afraid to admit what restrictions Islam places on who can vote and what mandate the winner has?

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Reply #102 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 1:40pm

It's idiotic because you're asking if a Jew has the right to choose a khalifah, and then falah points out that not all inhabitants of Australia for instance get to choose head of state.

He rendered your question moot, and you claim he's not giving straight answers. He's giving answers that are befitting for your questions. It's your questions that you need to revise.

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Reply #103 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 1:47pm

I agree that the concept of Islam allowing democracy is idiotic, but that did not stop Falah from accusing me of lying about it, did it?

Also, Falah has disagreed with you on some issues. For example, where you claim a man may rape his wife or slave, Falah insists that this is not possible because he already has their consent.

So it is not unfathomable that he might try to put a different spin on Islam and democracy to you. Just give him time. He is obviously still trying to come up with something.

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Reply #104 - Jun 9^th, 2012 at 3:06pm

freediver wrote on Jun 9^th, 2012 at 1:47pm:

I agree that the concept of Islam allowing democracy is idiotic, but that did not stop Falah from accusing me of lying about it, did it?

Freeliar are you concerned about democracy in Australia?

Why do you avoid answering the question?

Does it bother you that there are 6.5 million people in Australia not allowed to vote?

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