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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #30 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 12:25pm I'm sorry... are you blind? Or is it just OK for Og and not for me?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49133 At my desk.	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #31 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 12:36pm Just leave out the personal attacks.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #32 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 12:39pm is that an answer... or will you remove the flames etc ? i mean... they are obvious in every post... or are you blind?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49133 At my desk.	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #33 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 12:49pm You want me to edit your posts for you? I prefer not to waste my time, and to just ban people if they don't follow the rules. Just leave out the personal attacks and you will be fine.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #34 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 2:27pm Well then I expect you to be fair and start warning other people and deleting their flames thank you... Oh and I'd even be interested in where you think I called someone a name.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49133 At my desk.	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #35 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 3:02pm I didn't accuse you of calling someone a name. I do warn others. Are you going to carry on like this every time I ask you not to post personal attacks?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #36 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 3:17pm So I didn't call anyone a name...? So I "attacked" them how? Well I don't see you asking anyone else.... and I don't see any examples. but i do see OGs flames and apparently your bias.
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Reply #37 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 3:23pm

Its just a bit of fun FD..grendel doesnt mean anything by it..neither do I.. we flame each other sometimes.

No dramas here.

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Live in denial... Hicks wrote to his family admitting all this... his dad even said he was a terrorist...

The fact is you keep denying reality... the letters are real and written by Hicks.

Ill be happy to prove you wrong just as soon as Hicks' book comes out Beo..

I wonder then if the Libs eerrr Govt ,will extend compensation and an apology to Hicks on behalf of Howard and co.- hhmm?

Thats if he is allowed to release the book...it could look very embarrassing.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #38 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 3:36pm Don't have to wait for his book... he already had his letters made public by his dad...
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Reply #39 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 3:41pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 3:36pm:

Don't have to wait for his book... he already had his letters made public by his dad... Grin

If your so sure then it will be hard for you to accept there may actually be another side to this story that may actually throw another P.O.V on this nasty episode and blight in Australia's history of human rights in this country..not to mention the emergence of "concentration camps " as well under Howards watch...These camps opppressed many whos only crime was to ask for help and refuge from war and misery.

David Hicks has not had his day yet. It will come.

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Reply #40 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 4:08pm

Oh and OG...

http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au/ghwcContent.php?ghwcID=111

Now perhaps as was suggested more than a year ago you could rent the dvd and learn something about your wannabe jihad martyr poster boy.

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In letters to his father, Hicks boasted that he was officially a Taliban member, quoted a poem supporting decapitations for those who disagree with the prophet Muhammad, declared he enjoyed firing at targets from the Pakistani side of the Kashmir line-of-control while training with the Islamist terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba and called for an end to what he termed the "Western-Jewish domination" of the world.

It is a matter of some surprise that no one in the Coalition has circulated a transcript of The President versus David Hicks, which demonstrates, in his own words, Hicks's commitment to radical Islamism and his evident anti-Semitism.

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Reply #41 - Nov 24^th, 2008 at 10:37pm

hey ogly..

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Mr Rudd said he had no particular time for the Taliban regime.

"Let's also be clear about the Taliban. Now the Taliban didn't actually run a Sunday school picnic when they were running Afghanistan," he said.

"This is a brutal, bloody regime which killed women by stoning them to death."

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In Afghanistan David became a member of the Taliban, writing home to tell his family how "close to perfect" life was there, with the country run according to strict Islamic law.

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Reply #42 - Jan 5^th, 2009 at 11:17pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 24^th, 2008 at 10:37pm:

hey ogly..

[quote]Mr Rudd said he had no particular time for the Taliban regime.

"Let's also be clear about the Taliban. Now the Taliban didn't actually run a Sunday school picnic when they were running Afghanistan," he said.

"This is a brutal, bloody regime which killed women by stoning them to death."

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In Afghanistan David became a member of the Taliban, writing home to tell his family how "close to perfect" life was there, with the country run according to strict Islamic law.

and even if thats true Beo, that he said that at all I mean..how do you know what he was referring to when he said "close to perfect"...he could have been referring to many things other than war and terror....

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Reply #43 - Jan 5^th, 2009 at 11:41pm

Well I think that you have chosen a poor candidate to be a poster boy for human rights here Oceanz.

There is little argument from unbiased people, that Hicks did have his human rights massively abused, but the fact that he was not an "innocent" victim, does mitigate his personal appeal as an advocate for rights, when he was so willing to kill, (the ultimate abuse of rights, the right to live), in the name of Allah, for a named terrorist organisation.

So I know that two wrongs, do not make a right, but we must keep in mind the state of the world, when these abuses occurred, it was post 9/11, we were at war, and we were witnessing Islamic terror on a broad scale.

So while I always supported Hicks' right to a fair trial, I never considered him an innocent victim, or anything but a mixed up(crazy?) individual, who deserved to spend at least some time behind bars, for his mercenary behaviour.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: David Hicks video..speaks for first time. Reply #44 - Jan 6^th, 2009 at 8:11am Honestly, don't people have other things to talk about other than this idiot who got himself caught up with terrorist organisations? Just leave him to get on with his lifelong vocation - to become a truly great street sweeper or toilet cleaner, or a traffic cop. Let him die in obscurity.
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