Australian Politics Forum - Freedom of world press

Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Freedom of world press Nov 21^st, 2008 at 11:11pm If we allow people from a country who does not have freedom of press to have any say in our country, we won't have freedom of press either. http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/maps/fop_current.pdf
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Re: Freedom of world press
Reply #1 - Nov 21^st, 2008 at 11:12pm

Freedom of press (or lack thereof) is not decided by wealth or location.
It is decided by the religious or political overruling party.

1 Israel 28 Free
2 Kuwait 54 Partly Free
3 Lebanon 55 Partly Free
4 Egypt 59 Partly Free
5 Algeria 62 Not Free
6 Jordan 63 Not Free
7 Morocco 64 Not Free
Qatar 64 Not Free
9 United Arab Emirates 68 Not Free
10 Iraq 69 Not Free
11 Bahrain 71 Not Free
Oman 71 Not Free
13 Yemen 78 Not Free
14 Saudi Arabia 81 Not Free
Tunisia 81 Not Free
16 Syria 83 Not Free
17 Israeli Occupied Territories / Palestinian Authority 84 Not Free
18 Iran 85 Not Free
19 Libya 94 Not Free

muslim and russian countries are the worst.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48862 At my desk.	Re: Freedom of world press Reply #2 - Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 9:41am Quote: If we allow people from a country who does not have freedom of press to have any say in our country, we won't have freedom of press either. That does not make sense sprint. You are saying that 'allowing' people to have a say undermines freedom of the press.
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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: Freedom of world press Reply #3 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 3:02am We don't have freedom of press. Sedition, among other things, gag orders, other fun things like that. And, if Rudd gets his way, the internet will be censored.
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Re: Freedom of world press
Reply #4 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 4:56pm

f/D - allowing people who want to quash freedom make the rules will result in our freedoms being quashed

Sure easel, we may not have the utopia of freedom one might imagine, but we are one of the world leaders in freedom.

KEY
PR: Political Rights
CL: Civil Liberties
Status: F-Free; PF-Partly Free; NF-Not Free

Country PR CL Status
Afghanistan 5 5 PF
Albania 3 3 PF
Algeria 6 5 NF
Andorra 1 1 F
Angola 6 5 NF
Antigua & Barbuda 2 2 F
Argentina 2 2 F
Armenia 5 4 PF
Australia 1 1 F
Austria 1 1 F
Azerbaijan 6 5 NF
Bahamas 1 1 F
Bahrain 5 5 PF
Bangladesh 4 4 PF
Barbados 1 1 F
Belarus 7 6 NF
Belgium 1 1 F
Belize 1 2 F
Benin 2 2 F
Bhutan 6 5 NF
Bolivia 3 3 PF
Bosnia-Herzegovina 3 3 PF
Botswana 2 2 F
Brazil 2 2 F
Brunei 6 5 NF
Bulgaria 1 2 F
Burkina Faso 5 3 PF
Burma 7 7 NF
Burundi 3 5 PF
Cambodia 6 5 NF
Cameroon 6 6 NF
Canada 1 1 F
Cape Verde 1 1 F
Central African Republic 5 4 PF
Chad 6 5 NF
Chile 1 1 F
China 7 6 NF
Colombia 3 3 PF
Comoros 3 4 PF
Congo (Brazzaville) 6 5 NF
Congo (Kinshasa) 5 6 NF
Costa Rica 1 1 F
Cote de Ivoire 6 6 NF
Croatia 2 2 F
Cuba 7 7 NF
Cyprus 1 1 F
Czech Republic 1 1 F
Denmark 1 1 F
Djibouti 5 5 PF
Dominica 1 1 F
Dominican Republic 2 2 F
East Timor 3 4 PF
Ecuador 3 3 PF
Egypt 7 6 NF
El Salvador 2 3 F
Equatorial Guinea 7 6 NF
Eritrea 7 6 NF
Estonia 1 1 F
Ethiopia 5 5 PF
Fiji 6 4 PF
Finland 1 1 F
France 1 1 F
Gabon 6 4 PF
Gambia 4 4 PF
Georgia 3 3 PF
Germany 1 1 F
Ghana 1 2 F
Greece 1 2 F
Grenada 1 2 F
Guatemala 3 4 PF
Guinea 6 5 NF
Guinea-Bissau 4 4 PF
Guyana 2 3 PF
Haiti 4 5 PF
Honduras 3 3 PF
Hungary 1 1 F
Iceland 1 1 F
India 2 3 F
Indonesia 2 3 F
Iran 6 6 NF
Iraq 6 6 NF
Ireland 1 1 F
Israel 1 2 F
Italy 1 1 F
Jamaica 2 3 F
Japan 1 2 F
Jordan 5 4 PF
Kazakhstan 6 5 NF
Kenya 3 3 PF
Kiribati 1 1 F
Kuwait 4 5 PF
Kyrgyzstan 5 4 PF
Laos 7 6 NF
Latvia 1 1 F
Lebanon 4 4 PF
Lesotho 2 3 F
Liberia 3 4 PF
Libya 7 7 NF
Liechtenstein 1 1 F
Lithuania 1 1 F
Luxembourg 1 1 F
Macedonia 3 3 PF
Madagascar 3 3 PF
Malawi 4 3 PF
Malaysia 4 4 PF
Maldives 6 5 NF
Mali 2 2 F
Malta 1 1 F
Marshall Islands 1 1 F
Mauritania 5 4 PF
Mauritius 1 2 F
Mexico 2 2 F
Micronesia 1 1 F
Moldova 3 4 PF
Monaco 2 1 F
Mongolia 2 2 F
Montenegro 3 3 PF
Morocco 5 4 PF
Mozambique 3 4 PF
Namibia 2 2 F
Nauru 1 1 F
Nepal 5 4 PF
Netherlands 1 1 F
New Zealand 1 1 F
Nicaragua 3 3 PF
Niger 3 3 PF
Nigeria 4 4 PF
North Korea 7 7 NF
Norway 1 1 F
Oman 6 5 NF
Pakistan 6 5 NF
Palau 1 1 F
Panama 1 2 F
Papua New Guinea 3 3 PF
Paraguay 3 3 PF
Peru 2 3 F
Philippines 3 3 PF
Poland 1 1 F
Portugal 1 1 F
Qatar 6 5 NF
Romania 2 2 F
Russia 6 5 NF
Rwanda 6 5 NF
Samoa 2 2 F
San Marino 1 1 F
Sao Tome & Principe 2 2 F
Saudi Arabia 7 6 NF
Senegal 2 3 F
Serbia 3 2 F
Seychelles 3 3 PF
Sierra Leone 4 3 PF
Singapore 5 4 PF
Slovakia 1 1 F
Slovenia 1 1 F
Solomon Islands 4 3 PF
Somalia 7 7 NF
South Africa 2 2 F
South Korea 1 2 F
Spain 1 1 F
Sri Lanka 4 4 PF
St. Kitts & Nevis 1 1 F
St. Lucia 1 1 F
St. Vincent & Grenadines 2 1 F
Sudan 7 6 NF
Suriname 2 2 F
Swaziland 7 5 NF
Sweden 1 1 F
Switzerland 1 1 F
Syria 7 7 NF
Taiwan 2 1 F
Tajikistan 6 5 NF
Tanzania 4 3 PF
Thailand 7 4 NF
Togo 6 5 NF
Tonga 5 2 PF
Trinidad & Tobago 2 2 F
Tunisia 6 5 NF
Turkey 3 3 PF
Turkmenistan 7 7 NF
Tuvalu 1 1 F
Uganda 5 4 PF
Ukraine 3 2 F
United Arab Emirates 6 5 NF
United Kingdom 1 1 F
United States of America 1 1 F
Uruguay 1 1 F
Uzbekistan 7 7 NF
Vanuatu 2 2 F
Venezuela 4 4 PF
Vietnam 7 5 NF
Yemen 5 5 PF
Zambia 4 4 PF
Zimbabwe 7 6 NF

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=372

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Re: Freedom of world press
Reply #5 - Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 5:18pm

saudi arabia

"....Religious freedom does not exist in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam and home to the faith’s two holiest cities—Mecca and Medina. Islam is Saudi Arabia’s official religion, and all Saudis are required by law to be Muslims. The government prohibits the public practice of any religions other than Islam and restricts the religious practices of both the Shiite and Sufi Muslim minority sects. Although the government recognizes the right of non-Muslims to worship in private, it does not always respect this right in practice. ...."

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=22&country=7482&year=2008

libya

"....There is no independent press in Libya. State-owned media largely operate as mouthpieces for the authorities, and journalists work in a climate of fear and self-censorship. Those who displease the regime face harassment or imprisonment on trumped-up charges....
....Nearly all Libyans are Muslim......
.....The government does not uphold freedom of assembly. Those demonstrations that are allowed to take place are typically meant to support the aims of the regime........
........Women enjoy many of the same legal protections that men do, but certain laws and social norms perpetuate many forms of discrimination, particularly in areas such as marriage, divorce, and inheritance......"

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=22&country=7433&year=2008

yemen

".........The state maintains a monopoly over the media that reach the most people—television and radio. Access to the internet is not widespread, and the authorities block websites they deem offensive. Article 103 of the Press and Publications Law outlaws direct personal criticism of the head of state and publication of material that “might spread a spirit of dissent and division among the people” or “leads to the spread of ideas contrary to the principles of the Yemeni Revolution, [is] prejudicial to national unity or [distorts] the image of the Yemeni, Arab, or Islamic heritage.” Government authorities have used the Press and Publications Law to restrict press freedom, especially in recent years..............

........Women are afforded most legal protections against discrimination and provided with guarantees of equality. In practice, however, they continue to face pervasive discrimination in several aspects of life. A woman must obtain permission from her husband or father to receive a passport and travel abroad. Unlike men, women do not have the right to confer citizenship on a foreign-born spouse, and the process of obtaining citizenship for a child of a Yemeni mother and a foreign-born father is more difficult than that for a child born to a Yemeni father and a foreign-born mother. Yemen’s penal code allows lenient sentences for those convicted of “honor crimes”—assaults or killings of women for alleged immoral behavior. Laws requiring that a wife obey her husband were abolished by presidential decree in 2004.

Women are vastly underrepresented in elected office, and a study produced by the Women’s National Committee in 2004 found that women represented less than 3 percent of all government employees......

............Article 2 of the constitution states that Islam is the official religion, and Article 3 declares Sharia (Islamic law) to be the source of all legislation........

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=22&country=7521&year=2008

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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: Freedom of world press Reply #6 - Nov 25^th, 2008 at 12:06am There are plenty of worse places than here, doesn't mean we have it good. That's like abu when he goes on about "But the Christians........."
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: Freedom of world press Reply #7 - Nov 25^th, 2008 at 8:04am easel - I feel we do have to pretty good. the QLD laws for slander are pretty skewed imho. overall though Aussie rates pretty well. Sure there are others better.
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Re: Freedom of world press
Reply #8 - Nov 25^th, 2008 at 8:20am

Reporters Without Borders press freedom index puts Australia in 28th place. http://www.rsf.org/IMG/pdf/cl_en_2008.pdf

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The Reporters Without Borders index measures the state of press freedom in the
world. It reflects the degree of freedom that journalists and news organisations enjoy
in each country, and the efforts made by the authorities to respect and ensure
respect for this freedom.

Questionnaire for compiling the 2008 Worldwide Press Freedom Index

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Re: Freedom of world press
Reply #9 - Nov 25^th, 2008 at 9:59am

Tallowood - thank for finding that.
Aussie, 28th spot in a list of 173, puts us in the top 20 %.

pretty good, could be better, but on a world listing, pretty good.

Perhaps we should examine the top and bottom 20 of your list.
See what similarities exist.

1 Iceland 1,50 =
- Luxembourg 1,50 nc
- Norway 1,50 =
4 Estonia 2,00 -
- Finland 2,00
- Ireland 2,00
7 Belgium 3,00
- Latvia 3,00
- New Zealand 3,00
- Slovakia 3,00
- Sweden 3,00
- Switzerland 3,00
13 Canada 3,33
14 Austria 3,50
- Denmark 3,50
16 Czech Republic 4,00
- Lithuania 4,00
- Netherlands 4,00
- Portugal 4,00
20 Germany

153 Somalia 58,00
154 Belarus 58,33
155 Yemen 59,00
156 Afghanistan 59,25
- Equatorial Guinea 59,25
158 Iraq 59,38
159 Syria 59,63
160 Libya 61,50
161 Saudi Arabia 61,75
162 Uzbekistan 62,70
163 Palestinian Territories 66,88
164 Laos 70,00
165 Sri Lanka 78,00
166 Iran 80,33 =
167 China 85,50
168 Vietnam 86,17
169 Cuba 88,33
170 Burma 94,38
171 Turkmenistan 95,50
172 North Korea 96,50
173 Eritrea

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: Freedom of world press Reply #10 - Nov 25^th, 2008 at 10:53am gaybriel - perhaps you would like to post the list of "top and bottom 20" in muslimvillage? cant wait to read the lack of commentthere and it to be buried under propaganda.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Freedom of world press Reply #11 - Nov 25^th, 2008 at 12:09pm Why we aren't on top? Is it because we call paparazzi bastards too often or is it because our journos not allowed to be above the law?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48862 At my desk.	Re: Freedom of world press Reply #12 - Nov 25^th, 2008 at 12:34pm It's probably to do with FOI laws. For example, the Howard government decided that it was in the 'national interest' that the media not be allowed to find out how much money was spent on the firt home owners grant.
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