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Nov 27th, 2008 at 10:00pm
 
Terrorist attack on Mumbai kills up to 100 as gunmen storm hotels, take hostages

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24714370-401,00.html

AT least one Australians is dead, two others have been shot and another is unaccounted for after gunmen lobbed grenades into crowds and opened fire with machine guns in India's financial capital Mumbai today

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has warned there could be more Australian casualties.

Officials said they were checking unconfirmed reports two Australians may have been killed in the simultaneous attacks on two luxury hotels, a restaurant, a railway station and other city sites.

Australian man Braid Gilbert Taylor, 49, is among more than 100 killed, the Press Trust of India said.

Among the foreign dead confirmed so far are a Japanese man, an Italian and a Briton.

A young Sydney woman has undergone surgery after she was shot through the leg, the bullet shattering her femur.

Her boyfriend from Townsville suffered flesh wounds from bullets that grazed his leg.

Survivors have said the attacks were targeted at Westerners, with gunmen rounding up terrified tourists and demanding to know their nationalities.

Mr Rudd described the attacks as murderous and said little was known about the Deccan Mujahedeen, the group claiming responsibility for the attacks.

"But whichever group has perpetrated this attack, they are cowards, absolute cowards and murderers," he said.

Mr Rudd joined a chorus of condemnation, as images of blood pooled on the floor at Mumbai's main Chhatrapati Shivaji railway station and at the five-star Taj Mahal and Oberoi Trident hotels filled news bulletins.

Officials said one member of a 12-person New South Wales Government trade mission, which had been staying at the Oberoi Trident, remained unaccounted for.

Another of the delegates, Garrick Harvison, an export manager for winery Yarraman Estate, was holed up in his hotel room waiting to be rescued.

Australians in Mumbai

Actress Brooke Satchwell has told how she escaped the rampaging terrorists by spending an hour hiding in a hotel toilet before racing past dead bodies as she ran into the street.

Cricket Australia has called off a tour to India by Australian cricketers for the Champions Twenty20 League next week.

It confirmed that the hotel at the centre of the attacks was to be home to players competing in the upcoming Champions League, including Shane Warne.

A group of 20 Australians who were staying at the Oberoi hotel were evacuated but there have been no further details on their wellbeing.

And Adelaide woman Chloe Papazahariakis who was about to marry a Bollywood star in Mumbai spoke of the carnage she had seen.

Police in siege with gunmen

Police said they had shot dead four gunmen and arrested nine suspects.

A militant holed up inside Mumbai's Oberoi Hotel said that seven attackers were holding hostages inside the luxury establisment.

"There are seven of us inside hotel Oberoi," the man identified as Sahadullah told India TV.

"We want all Mujahideens held in India released and only after that we will release the people."

The hostage situation was declared ended at the Taj Hotel.

"People who were held up there, they have all been rescued," Maharashtra state police chief A.N. Roy  told the NDTV news channel.

"But there are guests in the rooms, we don't know how many."

Indian Home Minister Shivraj Patil said there were around four or five attackers in each of the two hotels.

"They have attacked hotels, they have attacked the hospitals, they have attacked the railway station," he said.

"The terrorists are throwing grenades at us from the rooftop of the Taj and trying to stop us from moving in," police Inspector Ashok Patil said.

At least two guests, trapped in their rooms in the Taj, phoned TV stations. One said the firedoors were locked, another said he had seen two dead bodies by the swimming pool.

"Two of my colleagues are still in there and the last we heard from them was three hours ago and then the phone battery died," said a German national who escaped the Taj.

"We don't know where they are."

Police said at least 250 people were wounded in the attacks which also targeted a railway station and the Cafe Leopold, perhaps the most famous restaurant and hang-out for tourists in the city.

Boyfriend hero

The father of Kate Anstee, the Sydney woman shot as she dined at Mumbai's Cafe Leopold, has praised the heroic actions of her boyfriend David Coker.

Chris Anstee said the 24-year-old could have died had Mr Coker, 23, not carried her to safety.

"They were just sitting there and a whole lot of guys, four or five guys, just opened fire with machine guns,'' Mr Anstee said.

"Dave has been very quick-witted and level-headed. He grabbed Kate and picked her up.''

Mr Coker's father John said his son had told him how the scene played out.

"He lay on top of her until the shooting stopped and then picked her up and carried her outside and saw a gunman about 15 metres away and said he'll never forget the look - (he) looked at him and (the gunman) looked at David and he said 'he didn't shoot me dad'.''

The couple had only been in Mumbai for a few hours when gunmen attacked.

Ms Anstee has undergone surgery on her shattered leg. She will remain in intensive care while doctors wait for her condition to stabilise before they operate again.

Mr Coker is also in hospital after suffering minor bullet and shrapnel wounds.
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Reply #1 - Nov 27th, 2008 at 10:22pm
 
Wasn't one of forum members planned to travel to India in search of spirituality?

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Reply #2 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 8:08am
 

terrorists ?
muslims again I presume.

should see the excuses in mv.
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Reply #3 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 8:35am
 
Honestly... What is wrong with these people?
And others wonder why people have an attitude towards their religion.  What other religion has terrorism and terrorists as an integral part of its fellowship?
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Reply #4 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 9:08am
 
the belief is proud of its extremism

in the koran there is a quote where some guy is talking to moh about how far he would go for 'allah".
moh says, "if I was told to cut off my brothers head I would do it."
The guy says, "That is great", he became a muzzie that day.

how &^#$ed is that ??
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Reply #5 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 10:08am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 28th, 2008 at 9:08am:
the belief is proud of its extremism

in the koran there is a quote where some guy is talking to moh about how far he would go for 'allah".
moh says, "if I was told to cut off my brothers head I would do it."
The guy says, "That is great", he became a muzzie that day.

how &^#$ed is that ??


It's about as &^#$ed as the grotty little bronze age episode about Abraham and Isaac, with God asking Abe to cut his son's throat just to prove his faith, then deciding that a ram would do instead.

Goats?/ sheep?/ kids? - the message is that ritualistic killing pleases God. As I've said before, a university educated theologian will ascribe some subtleties to it, but the average Kenyan Moran or Afghan tribesman will see no subtleties.
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Reply #6 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:29am
 
muso wrote on Nov 28th, 2008 at 10:08am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 28th, 2008 at 9:08am:
the belief is proud of its extremism

in the koran there is a quote where some guy is talking to moh about how far he would go for 'allah".
moh says, "if I was told to cut off my brothers head I would do it."
The guy says, "That is great", he became a muzzie that day.

how &^#$ed is that ??


It's about as &^#$ed as the grotty little bronze age episode about Abraham and Isaac, with God asking Abe to cut his son's throat just to prove his faith, then deciding that a ram would do instead.

Goats?/ sheep?/ kids? - the message is that ritualistic killing pleases God. As I've said before, a university educated theologian will ascribe some subtleties to it, but the average Kenyan Moran or Afghan tribesman will see no subtleties.


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Among those arrested was Mansur Peerbhoy, a 31-year-old Yahoo India software engineer earning £25,000 a year, a princely salary in India. Peerbhoy is alleged to have been IM's head of internet operations. Though Peerbhoy was by far the most well-off among all the IM suspects arrested by the police, a majority of the others hailed from a similar background – young, educated and middle-class.



Guess what do young, educated and middle-class Indian Mujahideen have in common with the average Kenyan Moran or Afghan tribesman?

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Reply #7 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:31am
 
Pulling out the old testament isn't really an attack on Christianity muso...

Nor is citing an incident 1000s of years old.

I note it isn't Christianity or Christians using terrorism etc to further their religion.
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Reply #8 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:33am
 
It was the same story with the London bombers and even some of the 9/11 terrorists I think. Young, educated, well-off etc.
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Reply #9 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:49am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:33am:
It was the same story with the London bombers and even some of the 9/11 terrorists I think. Young, educated, well-off etc.


Exactly. It isn't level of education, age or social position but rather level of indoctrination from their spiritual leaders that makes them terrorists.

Saying above I also want to add that, IMHO, not all Muslims are like that some of them posses ability to think critically and quasi independently but it seems that they are in minority and if they dare to voice their thoughts they become targets for violent and relentless campaign by orthodox mullahs and blindly obedient majority.

I will provide more example of that in What is the Qur’an? Archaeological Find thread later in regards of difficulties that modernist Islamic scholars have to go through.


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Reply #10 - Nov 28th, 2008 at 8:55pm
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:31am:
Pulling out the old testament isn't really an attack on Christianity muso...

Nor is citing an incident 1000s of years old.



I agree. The story is common to several religions. My point is that violent people will draw any message they like from just about any religion.
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another point is, there are many violent messages to be taken directly from the koran and mohs life.

one needs only to be literate to see violence in the koran.
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Mumbai's chief minister Vilasrao Deshmukh said two "British-born Pakistanis" were among eight gunmen captured alive during bloody shoot-outs with soldiers.


8 prisoners. It is fair chance that it will be found out who was behind the attack.
I wonder where is Haneef right now.

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 28th, 2008 at 8:08am:
terrorists ?
muslims again I presume.

should see the excuses in mv.


you mean these people who unequivocally condemn it?

http://muslimvillage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=47735&hl=

or do you object to people discussing why it happened?

of course to you that is excusing it- typical
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Reply #14 - Nov 29th, 2008 at 4:37pm
 
There is no excuse for terrorism and the death of innocent people like this.
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