The me part of me says I would like other people to get even, but the Christian part of me stops me doing it.

What's the deal?

If your next door neighbour sets your dog on fire, and you considered the dog a member of the family, is it justifiable to set your next door neighbour on fire, the whole, do unto others etc etc.

Did I ever tell the internet about the time I beat a black belt martial arts instructor more than just one time at a martial art neither of us were totally familiar with?

Where can pre emptive strikes be justified? What about revenge?

Easel - yes, Jesus does tell some of his followers to sell their cloaks to buy swords.

"He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'[b]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me.
Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords."
     "That is enough," he replied.

Luke 22:36 - 38

Jesus said that to fulfil this OT prophecy.
" Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,  
      and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
      because he poured out his life unto death,
      and was numbered with the transgressors.
      For he bore the sin of many,
      and made intercession for the transgressors."

Isiah 53:12


Remember, Jesus healed the guard that arrested him, and rebuked his own follower who hurt the guard.


What's the deal you ask Easel ?
"For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."

Matthew 6:14,15

That's the deal. As easy is it is to say and think, it is REALLY hard to do.
The worldly ways are against you to forgive, your pride, ego etc etc etc
But God is for you.

Good luck mate. I'm praying for you

Classic Liberal wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 11:48pm:


What about Mortal Sins, Pender? (Not trying to be smart here)

muso wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 8:18am:



All sin is an offense against God and a rejection of his perfect love and justice. Yet, Jesus makes a distinction between two types of sins. We call the most serious and grave sins, mortal sins. Mortal sins destroy the grace of God in the heart of the sinner. By their very grave nature, a mortal sin cuts our relationship off from God and turns man away from his creator. St. Paul’s letter to the Hebrews tell us that "if we sin willfully after having the knowledge of the truth, there is now left no sacrifice for sins" (Hebrews 10:26). The second type of sin, venial sin, that of less grave matter, does not cut us off from Christ. However, venial sin does weaken grace in the soul and damages our relationship with God. A person who frequently indulges in venial sin is very likely to collapse into mortal sin if they persist in their evil ways.

Yes read that a long time ago about the one sanctifying the other.

Classic Liberal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 6:50pm:

Let's hope she doesn't take the opportunity to go drugging and p!ssing it up. 

muso wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 7:30pm:

Or so you thought...