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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Hitler, only had one.... Dec 1^st, 2008 at 12:48am DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:56pm: Gaybriel wrote on Nov 24^th, 2008 at 7:58pm: oh and I'll start- mine is April 30th A day of mourning too. what cause hitler died on that day? good riddance
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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #1 - Dec 1^st, 2008 at 4:22pm Gaybriel wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 12:48am: DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:56pm: Gaybriel wrote on Nov 24^th, 2008 at 7:58pm: oh and I'll start- mine is April 30th A day of mourning too. what cause hitler died on that day? good riddance What's your beef with Hitler, Gaybriel? (Serious question)
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Re: Happy Birthday!!
Reply #2 - Dec 1^st, 2008 at 6:15pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 4:22pm:

Gaybriel wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 12:48am:

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:56pm:

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 24^th, 2008 at 7:58pm:

oh and I'll start- mine is April 30th

A day of mourning too.

what cause hitler died on that day?

good riddance

What's your beef with Hitler, Gaybriel? (Serious question)

his slaughter of millions of innocent people, his war mongering, his personal beliefs etc etc

why - do you admire or dislike him?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #3 - Dec 1^st, 2008 at 8:39pm gaybriel - oh, thought you were describing mohammad there.
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Re: Happy Birthday!!
Reply #4 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 4:48am

Gaybriel wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 6:15pm:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 4:22pm:

Gaybriel wrote on Dec 1^st, 2008 at 12:48am:

DILLIGAF wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 6:56pm:

Gaybriel wrote on Nov 24^th, 2008 at 7:58pm:

oh and I'll start- mine is April 30th

A day of mourning too.

what cause hitler died on that day?

good riddance

What's your beef with Hitler, Gaybriel? (Serious question)

his slaughter of millions of innocent people, his war mongering, his personal beliefs etc etc

So what about every other world leader? ALL have killed civillians and most have done so through acts of war.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48864 At my desk.	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #5 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 11:09am Phil are you actually trying to defend Hitler, or are you trying to make some other point?
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locutius Gold Member Offline You can't fight in here! It's the War Room Posts: 1817 Queensland Gender:	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #6 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 4:50pm Happy Birthday Don & Sprint for the weekend
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DILLIGAF Gold Member Offline Posts: 1259 The greens are red Gender:	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #7 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 6:15pm freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 11:09am: Phil are you actually trying to defend Hitler, or are you trying to make some other point? Yes and no but mainly no. All world leaders are guilty of mass murder in some way, pinning it only on Hitler is very short sighted.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48864 At my desk.	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #8 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 6:32pm I don't think anyone tried to pin everything on Hitler. Is that the only point you are trying to make?
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DILLIGAF Gold Member Offline Posts: 1259 The greens are red Gender:	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #9 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 6:38pm No the point is all world leaders are guilty.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48864 At my desk.	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #10 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 6:44pm As in, nobody is without sin? Is that the only point you are trying to make? Or are you suggesting some kind of more significant equality? It sounds to me like you are trying one of the BS defelction tactics we recently criticised a few Muslims for, but you are too shy to actually say it.
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Re: Happy Birthday!!
Reply #11 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 7:39pm

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No the point is all world leaders are guilty

I agree with Phil on this. There may be a few leaders that aren't, but many of them are - they just go about it differently to Hitler. He committed genocide on his own people, although he didn't recognise them as such - but then how many leaders have been guilty of that over the last century.

How many boys were sent to their death in WWI & WW2. They believed they were fighting for their country, but they were actually fighting for a group of men who had too much to lose. They were fighting for payback and the corporations, the way they always do in wars. The world leaders were responsible for 90 million deaths just in these wars alone.

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Reply #12 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 8:22pm

freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 6:44pm:

As in, nobody is without sin? Is that the only point you are trying to make?

Pretty much.

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It sounds to me like you are trying one of the BS defelction tactics we recently criticised a few Muslims for, but you are too shy to actually say it.

Well then it seems you need your eyes checked! I dont cower like some useless muslim.

To see what i'm on about, think of the names Hitler, Bush, Clinton, Nixon, Stalin, Churchill, Franco, Truman, Sharon, Suharto, Howard etc hell ALMOST every leader that has ever existed has taken lives in some way.

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Reply #13 - Dec 2^nd, 2008 at 8:33pm

So how do you go from 'nobody is without sin' to asking someone what their beef is with Hitler? It seems to me that you are suggesting that because no-one is without sin, we are all equal and we are not in a position to criticise Hitler.

I'm just trying to figure out what your angle is, that's all. It seems like a very strange thing to say. Can you not even see why it would seem strange and offern an explanation? The only explanation I can think of is that you are trying to make excuses for Hitler and what he did, on the grounds that other leaders are not perfect - as if not being perfect is somehow comparable to running the holocaust.

This is no different to Muslims deflecting to 'the evil west' every time we criticise Islamic terrorists. Only it is far more absurd.

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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: Happy Birthday!! Reply #14 - Dec 3^rd, 2008 at 7:04pm You can't blame Hitler. Think about it, ww1, Germany is bitched out by the rest of the world, kept under reign. Someone/something let Hitler get to power, arm up, hate the Jews and spread the doctrine he had. Who/what was it? Blame that. You can't become a world leader these days without someone owning you.
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