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Sheikh Haron prays for Mujahideen in Mumbai
Dec 1st, 2008 at 4:22pm
 
After the attacks in Mumbai by DECCAN Mujahideen, Sheikh Haron requests Muslims to pray for Mujahideen in India. If you don't believe it click on the link.

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Reply #1 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 4:28pm
 
Bluebird - are you associated with the Sheikh Haron site? It was demonstrated to you last time you posted from there that the site is bogus.

It seems suspicious that you persist given the information provided.  You seem to have the scoop on what Sheikh Haron has just said.

On how many other forums do you post similar messages Bluebird?

Are you that Sheila on the You-tube broadcast?

- alias ... 'Sheikh Haron'? or is it Sharon by any chance?
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Reply #2 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 5:06pm
 
I've noticed that too. Bluebird doesn't seem very interested in discussing this now that most members are aware of the 'fake sheik' scam. She just seems to post links. Maybe I should start treating her as a spammer.
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Reply #3 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 9:36pm
 
Look you guys, I am not a supporter. I am very curious about the site. I have many reasons as to why I am curious.
Firstly, they advertise Osama bin laden, they support legitimate suicide attacks they pray for radical Islamists in India and the list goes on.
I'd really like to know whats going on and why the site is still up.
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Reply #4 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 9:39pm
 
Why should they take it down? What laws does it break?

How does starting new topics constantly help you find out anything?
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Reply #5 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 9:55pm
 
That's what I was not sure about, is advertising Osama allowed? And requesting prayer for Islamic militants in Mumbai allowed?
You know in a video to Kevin Rudd he swore to God that Australians would be killed, so I like to know the view of others about these things.
I find some members here are quite knowlegable and I learn from them, I hope this is okay. Maybe its better I don't post anything about that strange site anymore if people are going to complain about it. No dramas.  Smiley
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Reply #6 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 10:07pm
 
Perhaps you should just dump it all in one thread. That way people won't feel as obligued to repeatedly point out it is a fake, just in case any newbies or lurkers are mislead.
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Reply #7 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 10:23pm
 
if the SH was watching VJM sky spectacle tonight blue bird would be justify to have as many threads as the celestial event has.
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Reply #8 - Dec 2nd, 2008 at 7:43am
 
tallowood wrote on Dec 1st, 2008 at 10:23pm:
if the SH was watching VJM sky spectacle tonight blue bird would be justify to have as many threads as the celestial event has.


Nice new avatar, Tallowood  Wink
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Reply #9 - Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 1st, 2008 at 10:07pm:
Perhaps you should just dump it all in one thread. That way people won't feel as obligued to repeatedly point out it is a fake, just in case any newbies or lurkers are mislead.


It is a fake, to some extent, but what sort of fake? And who is the faker? It is either a clumsy attempt at pretending to be a muslim, or, even more cunningly, it is a clumsy attempt by a muslim to say 'look here are these hopeless Anglos defaming us through this sort of stuff!'.

Whoever is doing this is however playing a very very dangerous game. ASIO and those guys have no sense of humour, no matter who you are.

And it did not take me more than a few minutes to track down where (not yet who) is responsible for all of this. I imagine others could take even less time than me.

Right, it seems to not be a fake in the sense that, it is not a muslim at all. It appears to be a muslim, just a slightly eccentric one:

Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi an Iranian cleric. He has appeared on the radio before.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/religionreport/stories/2001/240626.htm

Also, here is some video of him with a few friends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIK6-ZGWwVE
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Reply #10 - Dec 8th, 2008 at 8:06pm
 
Calanen wrote on Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:32pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 1st, 2008 at 10:07pm:
Perhaps you should just dump it all in one thread. That way people won't feel as obligued to repeatedly point out it is a fake, just in case any newbies or lurkers are mislead.


It is a fake, to some extent, but what sort of fake? And who is the faker? It is either a clumsy attempt at pretending to be a muslim, or, even more cunningly, it is a clumsy attempt by a muslim to say 'look here are these hopeless Anglos defaming us through this sort of stuff!'.

Whoever is doing this is however playing a very very dangerous game. ASIO and those guys have no sense of humour, no matter who you are.

And it did not take me more than a few minutes to track down where (not yet who) is responsible for all of this. I imagine others could take even less time than me.

Right, it seems to not be a fake in the sense that, it is not a muslim at all. It appears to be a muslim, just a slightly eccentric one:

Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi an Iranian cleric. He has appeared on the radio before.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/religionreport/stories/2001/240626.htm

Also, here is some video of him with a few friends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIK6-ZGWwVE


I have seen that video where he is with other clerics and that's why I believe he is Muslim and a cleric. I don't think he is fake,
and from what I have seen asio and the afp have replied to his letters politely.

http://www.sheikhharon.com/scanned-letter-of-asio-to-sheikh-haron-24-august-2007...

http://www.sheikhharon.com/scanned-letter-of-afp-to-sheikh-haron-31-jan-20080001...
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Reply #11 - Dec 9th, 2008 at 8:52am
 
What is more interesting to me is that you insist that he's genuine.

Didn't you read the links that show that they make some fundamental mistakes in their 'liturgy' that are obvious to most Muslims?

Pity the regular Muslims have been scared off. They would have been better qualified to comment.

I agree with Calanen that he is playing a very dangerous game.
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Reply #12 - Dec 10th, 2008 at 8:01am
 
The shakey sheik, is as real a representation of muslims, as Sir Les Patterson, cultural attache, patron of the 'yartz', and all round bonzer bloke, is a real representation of aussie males.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dnkUTqNYsp0&feature=related
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Reply #13 - Dec 11th, 2008 at 12:18am
 
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Didn't you read the links that show that they make some fundamental mistakes in their 'liturgy' that are obvious to most Muslims?


Did you see my links that show that he is real? The guy is just off his rocker.
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Reply #14 - Dec 14th, 2008 at 7:08pm
 
Calanen,

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And it did not take me more than a few minutes to track down where (not yet who) is responsible for all of this. I imagine others could take even less time than me.


I have done a bit of investigative work regarding this Sheikh Haron persona, and it appears to be more than one person. It is a group of people, and they seem to be linked to the Bahai' movement, who are a persecuted minority in Iran, which would provide a motive for non-muslims defaming muslims.

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Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi an Iranian cleric. He has appeared on the radio before.


Although one of the people behind the SH persona is called Manteghi Boroujerdi (who btw, proclaimed himself as liberal in early media reports, and to have fled to Australia to escape the extremist islamist government of Iran) another is also called Haron. So it's quite obvious this is a 'composite personality'.

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even more cunningly, it is a clumsy attempt by a muslim to say 'look here are these hopeless Anglos defaming us through this sort of stuff!'.


The site is  definitely run by two people of Iranian origin, the third person has a Western/Christian name, but not necessarily Anglo. Anyway this has nothing to do with ethnicity, many of us Muslims are actually Anglos anyway, so trying to make a division along the lines of Anglo and non-Anglo just makes no sense at all.
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