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Palestinians in Bethlehem face eviction
Dec 25th, 2008 at 9:07pm
 
It always amazes me how most Christians in the West support Israel, when their fellow Christians are quite often the victims of Israeli aggression and encroachment.. Then again, I guess it's a lot like in the Crusades when they actually slaughtered their fellow Christians (of Middle Eastern background).

At least Islam has brotherly love and care between it's adherents, Christianity doesn't even appear to have even that basic thing. We hear about the claims of universal human brotherhood in Christianity, but it's quite obvious that in reality it doesn't even extend to their own fellow Christians, let alone to non-Christians.

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Palestinian Christians living in Bethlehem could be spending their last Christmas in their hometown.

They live next to Jewish settlements and that means they also face the constant threat of eviction by the Israeli authorities.

Al Jazeera's Nour Odeh reports.

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Reply #1 - Dec 25th, 2008 at 10:16pm
 
Organised Christianity is suspect. People elevating themselves to God in some cases, I'm pretty sure Catholics are supposed to see the Pope as Jesus incarnate on earth.

Whatever.

Anyway, in Iraq, we have Sunni's and Shi'ite's killing each other. That's not very brotherly.
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Anyway, in Iraq, we have Sunni's and Shi'ite's killing each other. That's not very brotherly


That's a bit of a different issue. Family feuds are an internal affair, quite different from what we're talking about.

The Shi'a of Iran support the Sunni of Palestine, unlike almost all Christians of the world, who support the Jews against their fellow Christians.

That's the issue I was referring to.
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Reply #3 - Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:13am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 26th, 2008 at 7:35am:
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in Iraq, we have Sunni's and Shi'ite's killing each other. That's not very brotherly


That's a bit of a different issue. Family feuds are an internal affair, quite different from what we're talking about.

The Shi'a of Iran support the Sunni of Palestine, unlike almost all Christians of the world, who support the Jews against their fellow Christians.

That's the issue I was referring to.




easel,

Don't you know, that those ppl in in Iraq, are only muslim 'impersonators'???

They are not 'real' muslims, like the 'real' muslims in Pakistan....
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June 6, 2007
Jihadists in Pakistan "luring" children to become suicide bombers

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016781.php


5 October 2006
How UN aid helped extremists after Pakistan earthquake
The BBC has discovered that one of the charities linked with extremists is now using its position to gain access to orphaned or fatherless children.
In the days following the catastrophic earthquake, the government of Pakistan promised that all such children would be looked after either by their extended family or the state.
...He said they had already sent 400 such children under the age of nine to board at their madrassas, or religious schools, some hundreds of miles from their homes.
...But at one of their schools in the town of Mansehra - set up initially with the help of the United Nations Children's Fund, Unicef - primary children were singing a song at morning assembly which many might find disturbing.
It includes the line: "When people deny our faith, ask them to convert and if they don't, destroy them utterly."
I asked the Jamaat ud-Dawa spokesman, Abdullah Montazzer, why they were teaching such bloodthirsty songs to young children.
"No, they weren't singing that," he said. "Lots of infidels came in the aid effort and they weren't harmed. I don't believe these kids were singing these kind of songs."
I put it to him that virtually everyone I had spoken to in Pakistan said Jamaat and Lashkar were the same thing.
"We are not at all a militant organisation and we have no links with Lashkar at all."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5402756.stm

This story above, is another example of how [in the war against unbelievers ]Taqiyya [deceit] is practised against infidels.

The story above, shows how Western [UN] aid, is diverted by Jihadists, to teach HATRED of non-muslims, to orphaned muslim children.




Even Aussie muslims  [yet another muslim 'impersonator' /sarc off] display this same enthusiasm to recruit children to serve their death cult....


Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).
"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."
......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php



When these assertions of Sheik Feiz were later, widely publicised, the muslim cleric then claimed his remarks were 'misunderstood'.

Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood
January 18, 2007

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/19/asia/AS-GEN-Australia-Cleric-Controver...

Its another example of those filthy, treacherous, lying Kuffar,
......slandering 'peaceful' ISLAM don't ya know???
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Islam is a lie and truth is killing it.

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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023681.php#c602722

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #4 - Dec 27th, 2008 at 7:13am
 
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Organised Christianity is suspect. People elevating themselves to God in some cases, I'm pretty sure Catholics are supposed to see the Pope as Jesus incarnate on earth.


That's rubbish. He is the leader of the Church on Earth. The first leader was St Peter.

You can thank your lucky stars that Europe had the Popes to unite christians stop the Ottoman Empire and unite Christianity repeatedly against Islam before now in Europe. Who will do it today? Probably no one.
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Reply #5 - Dec 27th, 2008 at 7:21am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 25th, 2008 at 9:07pm:
It always amazes me how most Christians in the West support Israel, when their fellow Christians are quite often the victims of Israeli aggression and encroachment.. Then again, I guess it's a lot like in the Crusades when they actually slaughtered their fellow Christians (of Middle Eastern background).

At least Islam has brotherly love and care between it's adherents,


Not between Islam and anyone else though, huh habibi?

Hamas' Christian convert: I've left a society that sanctifies terror  

By Avi Issacharoff  

Tags: converts, Christians  

A moment before beginning his supper, Masab, son of West Bank Hamas leader Sheikh Hassan Yousef, glances at the friend who has accompanied him to the restaurant where we met. They whisper a few words and then say grace, thanking God and Jesus for putting food on their plates.

It takes a few seconds to digest this sight: The son of a Hamas MP who is also the most popular figure in that extremist Islamic organization, a young man who assisted his father for years in his political activities, has become a rank-and-file Christian. "I'm now called Joseph," he says at the outset.

Masab knows that he has little hope of returning to visit the Holy Land in this lifetime.
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"I know that I'm endangering my life and am even liable to lose my father, but I hope that he'll understand this and that God will give him and my family patience and willingness to open their eyes to Jesus and to Christianity. Maybe one day I'll be able to return to Palestine and to Ramallah with Jesus, in the Kingdom of God."

Nor does he attempt to hide his affection for Israel, or his abhorrence of everything representing the surroundings in which he grew up: the nation, the religion, the organization.

"Send regards to Israel, I miss it. I respect Israel and admire it as a country," he says.

"You Jews should be aware: You will never, but never have peace with Hamas. Islam, as the ideology that guides them, will not allow them to achieve a peace agreement with the Jews. They believe that tradition says that the Prophet Mohammed fought against the Jews and that therefore they must continue to fight them to the death."

Is that the justification for the suicide attacks?

"More than that. An entire society sanctifies death and the suicide terrorists. In Palestinian culture a suicide terrorist becomes a hero, a martyr. Sheikhs tell their students about the 'heroism of the shaheeds.'"

And yet, in spite of the criticism of the place he left, California can't make the longings disappear.

"I miss Ramallah," he says. "People with an open mind. ... I mainly miss my mother, my brothers and sisters, but I know that it will be very difficult for me to return to Ramallah soon."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1007097.html

And its been no picnic for Christians to live under Hamas. At least under the Jews, they are not going to be killed.

'Christians must accept Islamic rule'


Militant leader in Gaza says missionaries will be 'dealt with harshly,' demands women wear headscarfs

Aaron Klein, WND Published:  06.19.07, 09:54 / Israel News  

Christians can only continue living safely in the Gaza Strip if they accept Islamic law, including a ban on alcohol and on women roaming publicly without proper head coverings, an Islamist militant leader in Gaza told WND in an exclusive interview.

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Catholic compound ransacked in Gaza  / Associated Press 

School, convent belonging to Strip's tiny Roman Catholic community burned and looted during last Thursday’s clashes, community head reports  

The militant leader said Christians in Gaza who engage in "missionary activity" will be "dealt with harshly."

The threats come two days after a church and Christian school in Gaza was attacked following the seizure of power in the territory by the Hamas terror group.

"I expect our Christian neighbors to understand the new Hamas rule means real changes. They must be ready for Islamic rule if they want to live in peace in Gaza," said Sheik Abu Saqer, leader of Jihadia Salafiya, an Islamic outreach movement that recently announced the opening of a "military wing" to enforce Muslim law in Gaza.

Jihadia Salafiya is suspected of attacking a United Nations school in Gaza last month, after the school allowed boys and girls to participate in the same sporting event. One person was killed in that attack.
[Real hardcore, attacking a school full of kids. Cal]

"The situation has now changed 180 degrees in Gaza," said Abu Saqer, speaking from Gaza yesterday.

"Jihadia Salafiya and other Islamic movements will ensure Christian schools and institutions show publicly what they are teaching to be sure they are not carrying out missionary activity. No more alcohol on the streets. All women, including non-Muslims, need to understand they must be covered at all times while in public," Abu Asqer told WND.

http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3414753,00.html
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