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HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Jan 10th, 2009 at 10:18am
 
CNN broadcast a video of a person supposedly being worked on in a hospital that then died while the cameras were there. While that of course could happen during a war, this video was staged:



http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32393_A_Staged_Scene_in_a_Gaza_Hospital_-_Update-_CNN_Yanks_Video

LGF member 'Last Mohican' says as follows:

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I’m no military expert, but I am a doctor, and this video is bullsh-t. The chest compressions that were being performed at the beginning of this video were absolutely, positively fake. The large man in the white coat was NOT performing CPR on that child. He was just sort of tapping on the child’s sternum a little bit with his fingers. You can’t make blood flow like that. Furthermore, there’s no point in doing chest compressions if you’re not also ventilating the patient somehow. In this video, I can’t tell for sure if the patient has an endotracheal tube in place, but you can see that there is nobody bag-ventilating him (a bag is actually hanging by the head of the bed), and there is no ventilator attached to the patient. In a hospital, during a code on a ventilated patient, somebody would probably be bagging the patient during the chest compressions. And they also would have moved the bed away from the wall, so that somebody could get back there to intubate the patient and/or bag him. In short, the “resuscitation scene” at the beginning is fake, and it’s a pretty lame fake at that.

So the question is, were they re-enacting the resuscitation scene by repeating their actions on a corpse, because the child had died earlier? It’s likely that the answer is no, that child is still alive, and is just an actor pretending to be a child who was killed. Why do I say that? Because the big guy in the white coat, if he’s really a doctor, nurse, nurse’s aid, EMT, or any sort of health care provider at all would be entirely aware that tickling the boy’s sternum doesn’t really look like actual chest compressions. If the boy was dead, the man would have done a more convincing job in compressing the chest. The taps on the chest that he’s doing are the sort of thing you see in bad TV dramas, when you don’t want to make the poor actor playing the victim uncomfortable by really pushing on his chest. I think the man in the white coat knows this child is actually alive, and is making the simulated chest compressions gentle so as not to hurt the child.
My guess is that he assumed the videographer, like those on better TV shows, would have been smart enough not to film as far down as the man’s hands on the chest.



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Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 11:45am
 
yes, the CPR courses I have done on dummies is entirely different to that.
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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 11:49am
 
Meeting the locals

One of the company commanders runs over and excitingly tells us that the "Caterpillars" – D9 bulldozers used by the IDF – have uncovered a tunnel full of containers; but someone tells him that this tunnel is a familiar find. We head out to inspect the tunnel, which is located in fairly dangerous territory, in order to decide what to do with it.

We get a short security briefing, individual "combat numbers" and off we go, moving through the alleys, the soldiers pointing their weapons at the top floors or the holes in the walls, as need be. Hamas is nowhere to be found, but it could reappear at any moment. We arrive at an open area and the troops deploy quickly. We are treading through the Gaza quagmire – and there is a lot of it around.

We run across a local family in one of the buildings. Grandparents, a few young parents, some children and a few toddlers. Sitting on a rug, their legs are covered in blankets and two soldiers are standing guard nearby. "What about them?" I ask. "They're free to go if they want to, but they don't want to," said Eilon Perry, Givati's operations officer. "They informed us they would be staying in the house and we have no choice but to accept that."

Palestinian family insists on staying (Photo: Ron Ben-Yishai)

The family suddenly notices the cameras, and immediately, the expression on their faces changes. "We have no food," they say in Arabic, as one of the youngsters suggests we interview him in English about their plight. Givati troops are extremely concerned about being portrayed as abusing innocent civilians.

Perry points to a stack of canned goods, water bottles and other provisions. "We provided some of that and they cook and eat quite well," said Perry. The Palestinians seem to understand him and one of them smiles. It's a war – they had to try.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3653238,00.html

Indeed they did - as Mohammed himself said 'War is deceit.' Al Taqiya habibi, al taqiya.
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Re: HAMAS stages hospital scene for CNN - Pallywood
Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:07pm
 
Over 700 people have died, thousands wounded, yet you think they have time in their schedule to take a break for a little theatrical trickery???

Are you normal?

People are dying all over the place in Gaza, the medical staff there, some of whom are international medical agencies are ABSOLUTELY swamped with dying and horrifically injured civilians, but if trying to claim it's staged makes you feel easier about it, so be it. Your conscience that needs to be soothed, not mine.
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Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:13pm
 
Well you go over there and tell those fellow Muslims of yours the idiotic morons who kept bombing innocent Israeli citizens that its all their fault and they should stop it.  Also tell them to stop hiding in heavily populated areas and wear a uniform if they are waging war so the enemy can recognise them from the ordinary citizens.

Etc, etc, etc...
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:15pm
 
So your officeial response is:

'couldn't be staged because they were too busy.'

I'm not a doctor, I'm a lawyer. But I was trained in first aid, and I know that what purports to be chest compression and CPR is just light taps on the chest. There is also as the doctor says above there, no use of the bag or breathing apparatus.

I would have a field day cross-examining a doctor for their *Negligence* as demonstrated in that video, if it were real. Regrettably, though, it is not.

The doctor in the video, the Norwegian, Dr Mads (who is Mad) is a Marxist Revolutionary, and made comments in support of 9/11. It would be just his style to stage this sort of thing for the camera.

And it was staged, there is no question about it.

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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:20pm
 
January 9, 2009

MORE ON CNN AND THAT FAKE GAZA VIDEO: “Now, more 12 hours later, even the empty video page is gone. Now, the link takes you to a text-only story with no evidence that a video ever existed. So, the video was questionable enough that it had to be removed, but the story supporting the fradulent video stays? That’s not bad journalism, that’s out and out propaganda.”

UPDATE: David Bernstein writes:

I watched the video yesterday, and the guy who was allegedly filming his brother’s death made an absurd claim along the lines of “my cousin and brother were playing on the roof, and Israel sent a drone with a special, small missile just for them” (assumedly to explain why the building wasn’t demolished by the missile. So, the claim is not just that Israel purposely targeted children, but that it keeps a special reserve of tiny missiles just for that task. Anyone with an IQ of three could have seen that the whole story was bogus…

Or at least been suspicious. But repeating anti-Israel lies verbatim has become standard “journalistic” procedure.

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/65796/
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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:23pm
 
For goodness sake Abu or whatever your real name actually is or was...  it is a war....  W A R...  it is what HAMAS wanted and has been provoking for years.

No use crying about it now.
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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:24pm
 
Grendel,

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Well you go over there and tell those fellow Muslims of yours the idiotic morons who kept bombing innocent Israeli citizens that its all their fault and they should stop it.


Perhaps you should try giving this advice to non-Muslims too when they get attacked by Muslims. No?? Or is it reserved purely for Muslims? You're a hypocrite, pure and simple.

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Also tell them to stop hiding in heavily populated areas


Tell me, where are they going to go? Ever looked at a map of Gaza, besides there's absolutely no independant confirmation they are 'hiding in heavily populated areas'. In case you hadn't noticed, Israel has prevented any international media from entering.. wonder why? For their own safety... right?  Grin

Don't you feel a little embaressed, being so obviously gullible & deluded?

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and wear a uniform if they are waging war so the enemy can recognise them from the ordinary citizens.


As far as I'm aware all Hamas police and military personnel do wear uniforms, except for internal security forces (which is standard for intelligence services)... Perhaps you mean the politicians who are the victims of targetted assassinations?? Yeh they should be wearing uniforms shouldn't they, with a cap that has a big target on it....

Get real.
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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:31pm
 
Calanen,

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'couldn't be staged because they were too busy.'


The fact they are swamped with casualties raises two issues.

Firstly, they don't have time to be standing around doing this kind of stuff, they are already  stretched to the limit for time and resources.

Secondly, they have that many genuine victims laying around, what on earth would possess them to stage a mock up? Why would they need to? Are you trying to suggest by these claims that there's actually no casualties, and the whole situation there is faked?

Again, I think it's just your conscience's way of dealing with the fact that you know you're supporting shocking violence, tyranny and oppression.

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But I was trained in first aid, and I know that what purports to be chest compression and CPR is just light taps on the chest.


Well, if you have the same kind of credentials as sprint, ie. you've attended a first aid course, then please excuse me for not taking your word for it first time 'round. I do apologise.

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The doctor in the video, the Norwegian, Dr Mads (who is Mad) is a Marxist Revolutionary


Well that's it then Mr McCarthy, if he's a Marxist, then it's sealed, I believe it must be a fake.

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And it was staged, there is no question about it.


Soothe that conscience...
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Reply #10 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:38pm
 
ROTFLMAO

If you want to name call Abu at least get it righ eh...

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yes I know what GAZA is like.

I know the situation and don't play 
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with me and pretend that HAMAS and all the morons part of it don't.

they knew what they were getting into...  

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Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:40pm
 
Oh and feel free to post an image of the HAMAS Palestinian Army uniform anytime...
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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:46pm
 
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Whilst not supporting Hamas, you are still off your tree.

Did you know special forces often don't wear uniforms? I am sure there are Israeli soldiers who operate without uniforms, and wear clothes similar to what their enemy does, as well as using the same type of weapons, just as America, Australia, and everyone else does. In order to blend in and not draw undue attention.

The point of going to war is not to die and be a 'hero', it is to complete an objective.

If you had 500 soldiers in your army, facing off against 5000, in a city, would you wear uniforms and make yourself easier to spot, or would you go for that thing they call camouflage and try and hide?
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I am from a foreign government. This is not a joke. I am authorised to investigate state and federal bodies including ASIO.
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:56pm
 
Grendel,

If you'd bothered to actually watch the news at all, I'm ssure you would've seen Hamas uniforms before. They are blue. Anyway here is a story from the ABC about Israeli soldiers dressing up in Hamas uniforms... Kind of hard to dress up in something that doesn't exist, isn't it?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/09/2027746.htm
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Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2009 at 8:58pm
 
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Oh no dear boy...  i want to see photos of them in uniform in the field confronting the enemy...  easy to be on parade in some ragtag costume another to be a real army abiding by the rules of war.

BTW that article didn't help you one little bit.
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