Australian Politics Forum - Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo

Calanen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2241	Re: Religion of Peace Activists in London Reply #15 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:08am Religion of Peace activitists peacefully throw objects at Police, shouting 'Run you Kaffir Cowards!' It has nothing to do with religion mind.
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Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo
Reply #16 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 7:38am

Actually by the sounds of their obscenities I doubt they're all that religious.

The guy in the galabiyah (long flowing white robe) quite clearly is telling them to stop it and is trying to halt the misdirected anger and violence. So actually it seems the more Islamic elements of the demonstration are the voice of reason.

Remember not just dedicated Muslims would attend a free Palestine rally. You'd have everyone from anarchist atheists, to socialists and commies, anti-globalisation guys, Palestinian Christians, secularised Muslims etc. In fact the largest voice for Palestinians in most Western countries are the PA/Fatah supports, who are secularist nationalists. They might chant "Allahu akbar" but not out of any great religious devotion, more of a nationalist cry.

Not saying that Muslims definitely wouldn't get so heated, they might do... Anyway it's not in Australia, so stop trying to link it back to the situation of Muslims here. Muslims here did no such thing.

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Calanen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2241	Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo Reply #17 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:01am Religion of Peace Activists in ...Denmark, chanting Heil Hitler and Kill the Jews.
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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo Reply #18 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:10am But whether they are here or not, Abu, they are muslims, and they are your brothers, and you support them over any non-muslim. Have you not said as much yourself?
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Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo
Reply #19 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:30am

mozzaok wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:10am:

But whether they are here or not, Abu, they are muslims, and they are your brothers, and you support them over any non-muslim.

Have you not said as much yourself?

Lucky Abu is here to open your eyes hey Mozz, cause apparently once upon a time you would of supported these protestors.

Isn't that right Mozz. Any other lies you'd like to share with us?

Oh...and what of the S11 protesters Mozz...given that the majority of them were Christian/Secular....should their actions reflect on your secular ideals?

Or is it only muslims you wish to tarnish?
(No need to answer that question, we already know the answer).

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo Reply #20 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 9:02am mozzaok, Supporting doesn't have to mean condoning their actions. It can mean advising them against such actions. I've detailed this before for you... not that you listen, but can't blame a man for trying.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo Reply #21 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 1:11pm Advise..... ROTFLMAO Like you do... So when was the last time you advised anyone? How much effect did it have. oh wait... by your stance here there'd be no reason to advice... just join the cheer squad.
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Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo
Reply #22 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 11:05pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 9:02am:

mozzaok,

Supporting doesn't have to mean condoning their actions. It can mean advising them against such actions. I've detailed this before for you... not that you listen, but can't blame a man for trying.

So I guess if they rise up against us, we can count you out. At the very least, or perhaps you will join with them.

What we can be sure of is that you will not stand with us fighting against Jihad.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo Reply #23 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 11:20pm Oh mozzaoks pretty ok. He makes his own mind up Unusual line to take calanen?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo Reply #24 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 11:34pm Ahhhh... that would be Abu.. sprint.
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Re: Religion of Peace Activists Stage Rally in Oslo
Reply #25 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 7:07pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 11:20pm:

Oh mozzaoks pretty ok. He makes his own mind up

Unusual line to take calanen?

Not necessarily. One of the more important aspects of Islam is its loyalty to the ummah over the national interest, or indeed any local interest.

That means in effect, if Indonesia attacked us, there is a real risk the 'ummah,' muslims in Australia, would help Indonesian troops attack us. Because they are muslims, and we are kuffar. Especially if the Indonesian troops guaranteed that sharia would be installed in a new caliphate once they had power.

So, it's a very real question. Are people who swear loyalty to the ummah, still loyal to Australia? The answer is - likely to be for many - only when it suits them, and only when it does not contradict Islam.

Watch out if Malyasia and Indonesia join together to fight us here in a great Jihad. You'd really need to watch your back with respect to all muslims within these borders.

Get everyone to swear a loyalty oath to Australia above all else, on your Holy Book of choice, and to promise to defend Australia against all enemies both domestic and foreign, regardless of which religion the enemies are members of.

That would weed out the passport holders from the true citizens.

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