The protest was a peaceful demonstration against the ebil joo zionists. But, just in case the Jews attacked, the Religion of Peace activists brought some molotov cocktails with them.

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mozzaok wrote on Jan 11^th, 2009 at 8:59am:


Not possible, I don't think. Wars occur because of beliefs, points of view. Our point of view, or main point of view seems to be a belief in:

- equality, tolerance and the rule of law;

- secular society;

- violence only in self-defence, and real self-defence - that is direct attack, not some doctrine of 'I dont like them they oppress me, so I attack which is REALLY self-defence;

- every culture is as good as each other, there is no bad culture.

- (most stupidly) anyone from around the world that we bring into our culture and our cultures, will embrace and support our culture, laws, and way of life.

Islam on the other hand believes your culture and laws are rubbish. More than that, they are blasphemy. Islam is the only religion that has a very precise and defined doctrinal culture of warfare against unbelievers. So we bring a whole lot of people into our societies, sworn as part of their religion to destroy us, and wonder why they do? What idiots we are.

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Goddamn - forget about that. Whatever 'attacks' or whatever you do or do not do, makes no difference to the philosophy. Whatever you say, dont say, is irrelevant. You are an infidel who has rejected allah - you must die, your society must die - sharia must be implemented, allah's law and allah's people must prevail. That doesnt change, it is in thousands of pages of the hadith. So forget about the whole apologist angle saying 'It must be us - we must have offended them.'

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There will be major violence, that is inevitable.

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For it to get better is impossible in a sense because of Islam's intolerant and inflexible nature. The settled doctrine of beliefs is that Western society, in fact all other socities that are not allah's sharia - must be destroyed and muslims are commanded to help destroy them. So unless Muslims say, yes that is the case, but, we have decided that we accept the right of infidels to be infidels, free with their own governments (which they will never do) then there will always be conflict as they try to form the great Caliphate of Islamic domination over the whole world.

Its not hard to work out what they are going to do - they say it all the time. But that is covered up by apologists who say 'Its a bad translation', 'That is a weird misunderstander Islam' or 'You are taking it out of context.'

As a first step for policies in Australia, end Islamic immigration totally. Not a single one comes here anymore. Anyone else, from anywhere else fine. But no more Muslims.

mozzaok wrote on Jan 11^th, 2009 at 10:21am:


That's what Westerners dont understand, what is supposedly 'extreme' Islam, is just - Islam. What may be extreme are the methods employed, not the aims. That is some Muslims believe that the stealth jihad is the correct way of achieving the destruction of the West. While some believe terror is the way to do it. Nobody disagrees though that the West has to be destroyed.

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Well, yes and no. It has been part of the great counter culture push, ie, hate yourself and white guilt to say how bad the Catholic Church was. Bad things were done, but, it was less about doctrine and more about individuals.

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It did - but it reformed the Church, it didnt reform the Bible. A central tenet of Islam is that there must be warfare against unbelievers. The supremacy of Islam through warfare is a central and invioable part of the religion. I dont see that being reformed, I dont see how it can be.

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But they werent communists, they were people who lived under communism.

I can see the commonality, being that all systems require the support of their people, as the area of hope for a peaceful change of direction.

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Why should it? What possible impetus is for their to have a moderate form of Islam, when apologists of every persuasion make excuses and blame Westerners for the most extreme, violent terror of Islam. See the worse that Islam behaves, the more it is our fault. So they never need to behave, because its ALWAYS our fault.

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You dont get it. It is like saying that we need to engage with the moderate Nazis in the Third Reich, or the moderate Stalinists under the Soviet Union. There is no such thing.  It is the ideology that needs to change, not the people.

Islam needs to enter into a new lasting treaty with infidels, to say, sworn on the Koran:

- infidels have a right to exist, infidel nations have a right to exist under infidel law;

- muslims will never raise a hand against infidel nations or infidel systems or governments through jihad or otherwise.

If they dont do that, its pointless talking. Also, keeping muslims in muslim lands is important. They have their muslim government there, so no need for internal jihad. They do not have muslim government here, so there must be warfare until there is.

Well if Abu is a moderate Mozz...  I'd be worried.

More religion of peace activists in Denmark.

The cops were the ones injured !!!!!!!!!!

islamics seek death, so they don't give a hoot

Religion of Peace Activists in Londonistan peacefully throwing rocks and bottles at evil zionist London Met Police.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 12^th, 2009 at 4:01pm:


If I know NYPD, the cops werent the ONLY ones injured. I have a good friend that was a former Asst DA in NYC, and the stories he tells...