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Reply #45 - Jan 15th, 2009 at 5:35pm
 
Oh Skippy...

I don't know why you keep blabbing on about Israeli websites for.

I told you I went to the source.

I already knew about Magnesium and Phosphorus weapons...  from my time with the ADF.

But I went to an up to date weapons site to confirm what I knew.

I didn't think they'd been banned so i checked the UN protocol regarding their use...

and voila Skipperoony.....  the truth shall set you free.

Of course you could have looked it up yourself.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #46 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 12:04am
 
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Calanen wrote on Jan 11th, 2009 at 8:08pm:
White phosphorous isnt banned for Israel. They never signed the protocol against their use, I think you'll find.

Neither did the USA, as it happens.


Just because Israel dosn't sign a protocol dosn't mean the weapons arn't banned, fmd, I am soooooooooo over you fukkin jew apologists the p ricks are committing genocide and wacist ##### say ohh they didn't sign the protocol so they can use them, Israel are lying murdering scum and so are ### ###### supporting them.


Agreed 100%
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Reply #47 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 6:25am
 
Except of course the weapons aren't banned.
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Reply #48 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 7:03am
 
Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons
Protocol III

Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Incendiary Weapons.
Geneva, 10 October 1980
Article 1
Definitions
For the purpose of this Protocol:

Incendiary weapon" means any weapon or munition which is primarily designed to set fire to objects or to cause burn injury to persons through the action of flame, heat, or combination thereof, produced by a chemical reaction of a substance delivered on the target. (a) Incendiary weapons can take the form of, for example, flame throwers, fougasses, shells, rockets, grenades, mines, bombs and other containers of incendiary substances.

(b) Incendiary weapons do not include:

(i) Munitions which may have incidental incendiary effects, such as illuminants, tracers, smoke or signalling systems;

(ii) Munitions designed to combine penetration, blast or fragmentation effects with an additional incendiary effect, such as armour-piercing projectiles, fragmentation shells, explosive bombs and similar combined-effects munitions in which the incendiary effect is not specifically designed to cause burn injury to persons, but to be used against military objectives, such as armoured vehicles, aircraft and installations or facilities.

Concentration of civilians" means any concentration of civilians, be it permanent or temporary, such as in inhabited parts of cities, or inhabited towns or villages, or as in camps or columns of refugees or evacuees, or groups of nomads.

Military objective" means, so far as objects are concerned, any object which by its nature, location, purpose or use makes an effective contribution to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage.

Civilian objects" are all objects which are not military objectives as defined in paragraph 3.

Feasible precautions" are those precautions which are practicable or practically possible taking into account all circumstances ruling at the time, including humanitarian and military considerations.

Article 2

Protection of civilians and civilian objects

It is prohibited in all circumstances to make the civilian population as such, individual civilians or civilian objects the object of attack by incendiary weapons.

It is prohibited in all circumstances to make any military objective located within a concentration of civilians the object of attack by air-delivered incendiary weapons.

It is further prohibited to make any military objective located within a concentration of civilians the object of attack by means of incendiary weapons other than air-delivered incendiary weapons, except when such military objective is clearly separated from the concentration of civilians and all feasible precautions are taken with a view to limiting the incendiary effects to the military objective and to avoiding, and in any event to minimizing, incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians and damage to civilian objects.

It is prohibited to make forests or other kinds of plant cover the object of attack by incendiary weapons except when such natural elements are used to cover, conceal or camouflage combatants or other military objectives, or are themselves military objectives.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/int/convention_conventiona...
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Reply #49 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 3:51pm
 
Media 'War Crimes'
The latest media developments as Israel's campaign against Hamas continues.

PHOSPHORUS CHARGES REBUKED

Accusations that Israel employs sinister and "illegal" weapons are not new. Now, the politicized non-governmental organization Human Rights Watch has condemned Israel for allegedly using white phosphorus weapons unlawfully in the conflict with Hamas. NGOs such as HRW enjoy the "halo effect", whereby, because of their humanitarian focus, they are insulated from scrutiny and are regarded as above reproach by the media. In this case, media including The Guardian, Times of London, Christian Science Monitor and CNN have repeated HRW's claims.

However, this charge has been disputed by the International Red Cross, which stated that it had no evidence to suggest that white phosphorus is being used improperly or illegally by Israel. As the AP reports:

"In some of the strikes in Gaza it's pretty clear that phosphorus was used," [Peter] Herby told The Associated Press. "But it's not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it's being used in any other way." ...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j2vQ8GynRSG8lBEQir4RtXL9Ib2AD9...

Herby said that using phosphorus to illuminate a target or create smoke is legitimate under international law, and that there was no evidence the Jewish state was intentionally using phosphorus in a questionable way, such as burning down buildings or consciously putting civilians at risk.

White phosphorus has, however, been used as a weapon against civilians during this conflict... by Hamas. On Tuesday a mortar shell fired from Gaza into Israel contained white phosphorus. As the regional council's security chief said: "the potential danger of using such a rocket is enormous. It is far more dangerous than other Qassam rockets and mortal shells. This is an escalation in the type of explosives the Palestinians use on civilians."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3656311,00.html

We challenge Human Rights Watch to condemn this attack in the same way it has (falsely) condemned Israel. Send your comments to HRW - hrwnyc@hrw.org.

See NGO Monitor for more on HRW and its role in spreading the white phosphorus charge in the media.

Will the international media condemn or even report on this development? We won't hold our breath.

Write to the following media outlets:

The Guardian - letters@guardian.co.uk
The Times - letters@thetimes.co.uk
Christian Science Monitor - http://www.csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/encryptmail.pl?ID=CFF0C5E4
CNN - http://edition.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?18

http://honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/new/Media_War_Crimes.asp
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Reply #50 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 7:57pm
 
What was that skip?

You were completely w r o n g again.    Grin Grin Grin

Told you so.
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