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Reply #60 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 10:13am
 

the other beliefs are happy living under Aussie law, their goal is not to make us all "wiccans or whatever."

they pose no threat.
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Reply #61 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 10:38am
 
mantra wrote on Jan 16th, 2009 at 10:04am:
I don't understand Yadda.  There are many different religions in Australia practising their religion to the best of their ability. 
Why
should they go back to another country predominantly practising their religion?





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Because muslims themselves, when they are being candid, declare that ISLAM and other systems of law [like, for instance, Democracy] are incompatible.


Where ISLAM is, where muslims are, their pride and vanity compel them to believe that they have the right to become dominant.

Not to co-exist.

To become dominant.

Subjugating all other cultures and ppl.


ISLAM  = = unending war with 'unbelief'

Period.




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"Abu Bakr says he rejects assessments that he poses a threat to Australia's security.
"I am not involved in anything here," he told ABC Radio's PM program.
He says he cannot discourage his students from going to Afghanistan or Pakistan to train in terrorist camps.
"It will have nothing to do with me," he said. "Myself, I tell them what Allah said...."
Abu Bakr says he does not accept other religions.
"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion. It doesn't tolerate," he said.
"The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, is...
Islam."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1430551.htm




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Reply #62 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 10:41am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jan 16th, 2009 at 4:23am:
Also since you just believe Muslims are liars and deceivers who just practise 'al-Taqiyya" anyway, then the oath would mean nothing to them, they could just say it, and not mean it at all, right?



The point of making the oath more detailed and specific would be precisely to punish anyone perjuring themselves (perjury - English for taqiyya before the law). You break your word, you lose what was given to you on your word.. On top of the punishment for the crime that proves that you have broken your word.

Native born Australians would receive the punishment but as they were not granted citizenship on the basis of an oath, obviously their citizenship is not affected.

Revoking citizenship for perjury would be on the same general principle that confiscates the fruits of crime, perjury being the additional crime for natuarlised citizens.

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Reply #63 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 11:07am
 
She's not even an Australian so who gives a rats arse. Tongue
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Reply #64 - Jan 16th, 2009 at 11:23am
 
Soren it is not possible to take away citizenship once it has been granted. That's what citizenship means.
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Reply #65 - Jan 17th, 2009 at 4:23pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 16th, 2009 at 11:23am:
Soren it is not possible to take away citizenship once it has been granted. That's what citizenship means.


No it is constitutionally possible. Current legislation permits citizenship revocation only in the event that you lied to get citizenship. That could be changed however.

Citizenship is given too freely.
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Reply #66 - Jan 17th, 2009 at 5:20pm
 
Calanen wrote on Jan 17th, 2009 at 4:23pm:
No it is constitutionally possible. Current legislation permits citizenship revocation only in the event that you lied to get citizenship. 


Really!!!Smiley Hey that means 95% of all Arabs, Asians, Islanders, Indians, Black Africans have to be deported!!
Why? because to get citizenship you need to pledge allegiance to the country and none meant it as they are still loyal to their old lands.
So therefore they all lied and that means citizenship of these animals should be revoked!
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Reply #67 - Jan 18th, 2009 at 7:33am
 
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Why? because to get citizenship you need to pledge allegiance to the country and none meant it as they are still loyal to their old lands


No you don't. Did you see the oaths above. You just have to pledge allegiance to Her Majesty. How meaningless is that, plenty of room for Al Taqiyya in that oath.
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