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Moderation of the Muslim section is biased.
Jan 14^th, 2009 at 10:18pm

Moderation of the Muslim section is a disgrace and does not provide a level playing field to all posters.

Posts are being deleted or modified then lies are being posted about why such action was taken.

Posters who dissent are then threatened with banning and any attempt by them to prove the fairness of what they said or the dishonesty of the Moderators through reposting is deleted.

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Reply #1 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 10:34pm

Moderators should not post on the boards they moderate. Someone who actively participates in a discussion is not a moderator or arbitrator.

If they do insist on participating then their moderating powers should be limited to insulting words and should have no power to rule any views out of court. Post should not vanish but rather the text only should be edited and modding reason briefly given.

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pope urban 2 Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 271 melbourne Gender:	Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased. Reply #2 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 10:35pm Did you actually expect them not to.
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Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased.
Reply #3 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 11:04pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 14^th, 2009 at 10:18pm:

Moderation of the Muslim section is a disgrace and does not provide a level playing field to all posters.

Posts are being deleted or modified then lies are being posted about why such action was taken.

Posters who dissent are then threatened with banning and any attempt by them to prove the fairness of what they said or the dishonesty of the Moderators through reposting is deleted.

This is too spooky..

It sounds like the way the

Multiculturalism and Race board is run....

It might help your case if you whined about the way that was run too Beo..but seeing as how it only happens to pple on Donalds boards..whom Donald doesnt like thats ok hey.

You wonder why noone cares about your situation, because you are one sided and one eyed..you only care about yourself.

Selfish. Angry

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Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased.
Reply #4 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 11:15pm

pope urban 2 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2009 at 10:35pm:

Did you actually expect them not to.

Funnily enough, I did. The Speaker in parliament does not participate in the debate. A boxing referee does not participate in the biffo.

Not all moderators have a sense of fair play and some can too easily be tempted into becoming the Napoleans and Snowballs on their own little farms.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased. Reply #5 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 11:19pm Fight your own battles Ogly like I fight mine. Abu is a disgrace. he deleted and modded stuff I wrote then lied why it was necessary, libelling me in the process then treatening to ban me. Now that's not whining, thats exposing unfair and devious behavior which should not be tolerated.
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Reply #6 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 11:28pm

I wouldn't vote "yes" because I like to see them for what they are. Anything they have any control over becomes an Islamic state.

But seeing that you've gone running to the mods because I called you BO, I don't think that you're the one to talk.
..and I've little doubt about who was doing the brunt of the complaing to the Cracker mods either.

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Reply #7 - Jan 15^th, 2009 at 4:46am

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Anything they have any control over becomes an Islamic state.

You really are a goose Amadd. For a start, one of the moderators in the Islamic forum is a non-Muslim, she's also a female. Both big no-no's for an Islamic state. For an atheist, you're quite an extremist... I thought atheists were meant to be logical?

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Reply #8 - Jan 15^th, 2009 at 6:42am

Gee Amadd years of you calling me names you really think it actually worries me?
This isn't about you or lestat or childish name calling... it's about public dishonesty and the right to be a moderator.
Soren is right if you Mod you shouldn't post.
Not that that would stop unfair and biased moderation.

As for you Abu have you restored my post?
Have you deleted your lies?
Where's my apology?

I bet you didn't discuss your actions with the other moderator and if you did then she had dropped yet another level in my opinion of her. But I doubt she'd have such poor English skills to agree with your interpretation of what I said and despite her biased spin I doublt she'd be that dishonest.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40769 Gender:	Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased. Reply #9 - Jan 15^th, 2009 at 8:06am yes, we are aware of islams sexist biased stance abu. what else could we expect from mohammad ??
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pope urban 2 Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 271 melbourne Gender:	Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased. Reply #10 - Jan 15^th, 2009 at 9:07am I had a post deleted from there yesterday, must have offended them, whats new.
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Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased.
Reply #11 - Jan 15^th, 2009 at 9:44am

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Moderation of the Muslim section is biased.

As i have expressed previously on the Oz Pol board,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226668280/62#62

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226668280/63#63

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226668280/65#65

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226668280/68#68

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226668280/91#91

I have no objection to a 'moderator' having a bias, and expressing that bias.

What i object to is when a moderator will censor others on a board, so that others are precluded from expressing an opposing bias.

Such a circumstance is not debate, or conducive to free and open debate.

If a particular person describes views, or presents information which is truly 'offensive', shouldn't others be exposed to those views, so that they understand what kind of person we have here?

How else are ppl to form opinions, except by being exposed to such information?

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"Open societies do not fear the opinions of fools.
....they rather, EXPOSE and laugh at folly!

In any free and open debate, if a 'position' is absurd, if an 'argument' is absurd,
...then the debater is [often] condemned to all, WITH HIS OWN WORDS.

And that result [i.e. the exposure of folly] is THE VERY FUNCTION, of free and open debate.

Free and open debate *is meant* to be A CONTEST OF IDEAS!
....where every folly is revealed.

And open debate is healthy, to all general freedoms in a society."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226668280/62#62

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The dangers we face today, are actually being promoted, by the very persons and institutions that we consider 'gatekeepers' of our rights and freedoms.

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"January 14, 2009
NY Daily News: United Nations tries to outlaw criticism of Islam!
An ominous initiative that we have discussed many times here -- the UN's efforts to silence those who call attention to the ways in which Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify their actions and make recruits -- gets attention in, of all places, the New York Daily News.
"UN-acceptable censorship: The United Nations tries to outlaw criticism of Islam," by Floyd Abrams for the Daily News, January 14"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024395.php

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Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased.
Reply #12 - Jan 15^th, 2009 at 9:45am

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Gee Amadd years of you calling me names you really think it actually worries me?

Well, I do get the distinct impression that it does bother you, considering that for the few times I've bothered to speak to you here, you've complained twice to mods about me using the term "BO" which is just short for "Beowulf" anyway. If it happens to smell a little also, then so be it.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21884 A cat with a view	Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased. Reply #13 - Jan 15^th, 2009 at 9:57am Amadd wrote on Jan 14^th, 2009 at 11:28pm: I wouldn't vote "yes" because I like to see them for what they are. Anything they have any control over becomes an Islamic state...... Ammad, Or even Amadd, I have to agree with you here. Shine that LIGHT, into the darkness!
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Re: Moderation of the Muslim section is biased.
Reply #14 - Jan 15^th, 2009 at 10:05am

Grendel wrote on Jan 15^th, 2009 at 6:42am:

As for you Abu.....
I bet you didn't discuss your actions with the other moderator and if you did then she had dropped yet another level in my opinion of her.
But I doubt she'd have such poor English skills to agree with your interpretation
of what I said and despite her biased spin I doublt she'd be that dishonest.

Grendel,

You are WRONG!

"Females are mentally defective."

N.B.
These are NOT my views, this is what ISLAM teaches [its own], and what is taught today in many mosques by many Imam's.

Google the words.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Question: Such Mods should be relieved of mod privileges?
yes 7 (46.7%) no 8 (53.3%) Total votes: 15 « Created by: Grendel on: Jan 14^th, 2009 at 10:18pm »