freediver wrote on Jan 21
st, 2009 at 9:54am:
When Hamas started firing rockets into Israel, the Isaraelis had no choice but to defend themselves.
Once again, you have your chronology all wrong. Israel invaded, occupied and stole Palestinian land long before Hamas was even formed. 60 years of persecution, suffering and oppression at the hands of Israeli aggression, and Hamas was born out of this environment.
It is Hamas and the Palestinians that are defending themselves, against Israeli aggression.
freediver wrote on Jan 21
st, 2009 at 9:54am:
When the Palestinian people elected a government whose foreign policy included the destruction of Israel, the Israeli people had no choice but to try to undermine their ability to do so.
They have a choice alright...how bout demanding that their government cease the decades long occupation of Palestine..and the continuous persecution of the Israeli people.
how bout they retreat to the Res 242 defined borders?
Perhaps if they had done this, Hamas would not have been voted...in fact they may not even of existed.
freediver wrote on Jan 21
st, 2009 at 9:54am:
The Israeli people chose to minimise their own suffering as best they could.
By maximising the suffering on the Palestinians. It is ludicrous that you are equating the suffering experienced by the Palestinians to that of the Israeli's.
Palestine has had to put up with 60 years and theft, forced removals, bulldozed homes, destroyed agrgiculure and livestock, humiliating checkpoints, murdered civlians and blockades aimed at starvation.
freediver wrote on Jan 21
st, 2009 at 9:54am:
Whatever grievances the Palestinians have, they did not have to fire rockets into Israel. They chose to.
What...do you acknowledge that the Palestinians have grievances? Could of fooled me.
And tell me fd, what do you suggest they do? Peaceful protest? Nothing? They tried that for 40 years and the world did nothing..whilst they suffering in silence.
No doubt you yearn for those good old days once again...when those pesky Palestinians suffered and died in silence.
freediver wrote on Jan 21
st, 2009 at 9:54am:
Hamas chose to initiate yet another futile war that would only bring harm upon the people they were charged with protecting.
This lie has been exposed time and time again yet you still repeat it.
Hamas for 6 months respected a cease fire agreement. As a part of that agreement, Israel was to lift its blockade of Gaza. Something it did not do. So from day one it was Israel who was in violation of the cease fire, not Hamas.
freediver wrote on Jan 21
st, 2009 at 9:54am:
Whatever suffering they have endured, they chose to compound that suffering.
Oh...how nice of you to 'acknowledge' their suffering. Now what do you suggest should be done about it.
freediver wrote on Jan 21
st, 2009 at 9:54am:
The immediate consequences of their actions were forseeable and inevitable, yet they chose that path regardless. They continue to choose to compound their suffering.
As opposed to do nothing and starve to death whilst the world stood by and did nothing.
Or did you forget the blockade of Gaza...Israels punishment of the Palestinian people for excercising what you believe is their, to freely elect the government of their choosing.
The If Hamas love death so much, why do they complain so bitterly about it? [/quote]
They don't love death. They are resisting the persecution and oppression of an arparthied government.
Why do you love the oppression of the Palestinian people so much. Why do you defend Israel's right to persecute a weak and defenseless people?