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Re: Australia Day Disgrace
Reply #15 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:10pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:06pm:

Face it Mozz multiculturalism is more than likely the cause of this behaviour... people are running out of tolerance. Time to end the experiment and go back to Integration or Assimilation and whoever refuses to fit in can go back home.

Would you leave it to public servants to decide whether or not an immigrant fits in enough to stay?
How would you measure it?

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Reply #16 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:13pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:10pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:06pm:

Face it Mozz multiculturalism is more than likely the cause of this behaviour... people are running out of tolerance. Time to end the experiment and go back to Integration or Assimilation and whoever refuses to fit in can go back home.

Would you leave it to public servants to decide whether or not an immigrant fits in enough to stay?
How would you measure it?

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Reply #17 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:18pm

We already do leave it to public servants.
Problem is the rules they administer are those of multiculturalism.

We already have a discriminatory immigration policy it needs to be more discriminating.

We need Australian citizenship to be something of real value not just a piece of paper and we need to be able to strip citizenship from those found later to not fit in with Australian society.

We need Australian culture to be recognised and respected. Not ignored and set aside.

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Reply #18 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:21pm

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This is just a result of pent up frustration of European Australians everywhere. More to come in the future, let me tell you. The last thing Australia wants is for our country to end up like England (Pretty much a third world hellhole now thanks to mass immigration).

Well DT - tell us how it's going to end? There is a greater agenda, far beyond that which our PM's can control. They are held to ransom by a global order - IMF, EU etc. and can do nothing about mass immigration.

I don't want any more migrants here either - Australia is full to the brim now with people. We have looming mass unemployment, a shortage of water, thousands of unwanted children and farms collapsing around us. The time is not far off where we won't be able to sustain our current population.

But those youths rioting yesterday were just straight out drunken louts. They probably had no hidden agenda - just a mob mentality filled to the eyeballs with drugs and alcohol and very bored.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #19 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:27pm Hey mantra... theres a book you might be interested in re Australia being full ie at capacity re habitation resources. think it was written by some Greenies. Might have been in the papers lately. i'll see if I can find the name for you. gonna get a copy myself.
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Reply #20 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:30pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:18pm:

We already do leave it to public servants.
Problem is the rules they administer are those of multiculturalism.

We already have a discriminatory immigration policy it needs to be more discriminating.

We need Australian citizenship to be something of real value not just a piece of paper and we need to be able to strip citizenship from those found later to not fit in with Australian society.

We need Australian culture to be recognised and respected. Not ignored and set aside.

Would the revocation of citizenship also be invoked for serious crime (serious assault, murder, drug crimes etc)? If so, how would you deal with their former nation's refusal to repatriate naturalised citizens who have committed serious crime?

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Re: Australia Day Disgrace
Reply #21 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:33pm

mantra wrote on Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:21pm:

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This is just a result of pent up frustration of European Australians everywhere. More to come in the future, let me tell you. The last thing Australia wants is for our country to end up like England (Pretty much a third world hellhole now thanks to mass immigration).

Well DT - tell us how it's going to end? There is a greater agenda, far beyond that which our PM's can control. They are held to ransom by a global order - IMF, EU etc. and can do nothing about mass immigration.

I don't want any more migrants here either - Australia is full to the brim now with people. We have looming mass unemployment, a shortage of water, thousands of unwanted children and farms collapsing around us. The time is not far off where we won't be able to sustain our current population.

But those youths rioting yesterday were just straight out drunken louts. They probably had no hidden agenda - just a mob mentality filled to the eyeballs with drugs and alcohol and very bored.

Oh yeah? Tell that to the Japanese Government. Roll Eyes

It will 'stop' when they realize how wrong globalization is and how it's not only destroying countries cultures and people by doing so, but making the rich richer and the poor poorer.

Our Government sold out to the world elites because they have no spine and they're ideological anti-racists/multiculturalists. They're basically sell-outs. Did Iceland or Japan sell-out to the global elite? No. They said they don't want immigrants and they don't get any immigrants.

The problem with you Mantra, is that you, like many, many ideological anti-racists have an unhealthy attitude of 'defeat.' An attitude that says we have to accept multiculturalism and immigration because it's 'inevitable.'

I think Napoleon said it best:
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“Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools.”

If you actually believe in the 'inevitable' argument, we might as well accept living in squalor.

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Reply #23 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:33pm

You may have missed it DT, but I said all DECENT Aussies, would be embarrassed by that type of hooligan behaviour, especially on Australia Day.

The comparison to the louts at the tennis, is also appropriate, in my view, as both groups displayed violent, stupid behaviour, inspired by misplaced nationalism.
The difference you are focusing on is the fact that the tennis louts nationalistic fervour, was for a country they have probably never been to, and have just been taught their racist behaviour and attitudes by their ignorant, racist, families.
Racism is not natural behaviour, it is learned.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #24 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:34pm Quote: i'm starting to see a pattern emerge and the cracks in multiculti are getting wider with each passing year. So what you realla mean to say by this Grendel is, If 'ethnics' do something, they're to blame, and if we 'aussies' do something, they're also to blame? Can't win can they..
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Reply #25 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:36pm

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Hey mantra... theres a book you might be interested in re Australia being full ie at capacity re habitation resources. think it was written by some Greenies.

Might have been in the papers lately. i'll see if I can find the name for you. gonna get a copy myself.

Thanks Grendel - sounds interesting. As far as immigration increasing here each year - there's got to be some more information out there as to who's directing this. It's not solely at the whim of our PM's.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5605	Re: Australia Day Disgrace Reply #26 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 9:55pm I'm surprised that nobody noticed that it was just a mute re-enactment of historical of Rum Rebellion.
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Reply #27 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 10:00pm

Our Government sold out to the world elites because they have no spine and they're ideological anti-racists/multiculturalists. They're basically sell-outs. Did Iceland or Japan sell-out to the global elite? No. They said they don't want immigrants and they don't get any immigrants.

The problem with you Mantra, is that you, like many, many ideological Quote:

anti-racists have an unhealthy attitude of 'defeat.' An attitude that says we have to accept multiculturalism and immigration because it's 'inevitable.'

I think Napoleon said it best:

“Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools.”

If you actually believe in the 'inevitable' argument, we might as well accept living in squalor.

Well tell me DT - what do you suggest we do about it? Have an uprising against the government or start a civil war?

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Reply #28 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 10:00pm

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/many-in-denial-over-rising-population/2008/12...

I heard this guy, Mark O'Connor, interviewed on the radio today, and he is no racist nutjob, and is not obsessed against multiculturalism, he just thinks that population numbers, and migration , should be reviewed.

He thinks our current levels are unsustainable, and bad for the environment.

I think this is probably the guy that Beo was talking about.

The ACF, has also called for reduced migration, for environmental reasons, so it seems it is not just racist goons who have qualms about migration policies, as they stand.

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Reply #29 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 10:02pm

mantra wrote on Jan 27^th, 2009 at 10:00pm:

Our Government sold out to the world elites because they have no spine and they're ideological anti-racists/multiculturalists. They're basically sell-outs. Did Iceland or Japan sell-out to the global elite? No. They said they don't want immigrants and they don't get any immigrants.

The problem with you Mantra, is that you, like many, many ideological Quote:

anti-racists have an unhealthy attitude of 'defeat.' An attitude that says we have to accept multiculturalism and immigration because it's 'inevitable.'

I think Napoleon said it best:

“Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools.”

If you actually believe in the 'inevitable' argument, we might as well accept living in squalor.

Well tell me DT - what do you suggest we do about it? Have an uprising against the government or start a civil war?

March on Austria.

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