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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Intuition and sixth sense Jan 28^th, 2009 at 8:22am How come some people have no intuition whatsoever ? Those are the ones that call it a load of baloney and ruthlessly overrun any "feelings." We all have intuition. Some of us are brave and act on it and so encourage it. Use it or lose it.
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Reply #1 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 9:29am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 28^th, 2009 at 8:22am:

How come some people have no intuition whatsoever
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Those are the ones that call it a load of baloney and ruthlessly overrun any "feelings."
We all have intuition. Some of us are brave and act on it and so encourage it.

Use it or lose it.

Is it because most of us are 'engrossed' with our [this] physical reality ?

Because we find it much easier to 'stroke' the physical, than to 'stroke' the spiritual ?

'stroke' = = engage with

We always have a choice.

We can engage with what is 'apparent'.

Or we can seek reality [.....beyond the 'apparent'].

When we are 'engaged' with the world we don't see beyond it, because we never look, because we allow ourselves [we choose] to be constantly distracted by this physical world.

What i believe....

We humans, all we humans, are all spiritual beings.

And we come to this physical existence specifically [i believe], to exercise the 'power' of choice [given to each of us, by God],
....in this physical existence.

And in this life, by our choices, we demonstrate to ourselves, to ourselves, to ourselves, that we understand the consequences of our choices.
....well, some of us do!!!

Choice is a mental power, a thought power,
....a spiritual power.

Here, here, here, in this 'reality', here on this little planet, our choices have no form, until we express them, physically!
[...or so we think! But that is another story!!]

THE TRUTH....

All men have been corrupted by their 'power' of choice [i.e. by the exercising of their choices, in this physical world!].

Some of us seek to alleviate our [real] spiritual corruption, by seeking redemption, through spiritual repentance.

We all choose....
....to either come to the LIGHT,
....or to deny the TRUTH, and to dwell in the DARKNESS.

We choose.

This life is a mystery, and a 'parable', of sorts.

Why has God used the experience of this 'parable' to teach us [the TRUTH]?

Matthew 13:10
And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Don't blame God, don't accuse God.

God is just....
....and men are wicked, blind fools.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: Intuition and sixth sense Reply #2 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 1:42pm You judge a tree by it's fruit. Intuition can be a convenient shortcut and can sometimes give you a great leap, but it can also lead you up the garden path. It is effectively a form of lazyness, in that people cannot be bothered figuring out why they think something.
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Reply #3 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 2:15pm

freediver wrote on Jan 28^th, 2009 at 1:42pm:

You judge a tree by it's fruit. Intuition can be a convenient shortcut and can sometimes give you a great leap, but it can also lead you up the garden path. It is effectively a form of lazyness, in that people cannot be bothered figuring out why they think something.

Very true.

The truth we feel, neither mitigated by the faculties of intellect, nor given by authority, is the genesis our deepest held beliefs, which we will defend even against the presence of incontrovertible fact.

Hence religion's survival of science.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: Intuition and sixth sense Reply #4 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 2:43pm You feel that science is somehow at odds with religion?
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Reply #5 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 2:56pm

freediver wrote on Jan 28^th, 2009 at 2:43pm:

You feel that science is somehow at odds with religion?

From the Judeo-Christian-Islamic context, it would seem unlikely that the world was made in 7 days and is only 5 1/2 thousand years old and certain that the solar system is heliocentric as opposed to geocentric (even though our intuition may tell us otherwise), for example.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: Intuition and sixth sense Reply #6 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 2:59pm Religion is not astronomy or geology.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Intuition and sixth sense Reply #7 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 3:12pm freediver wrote on Jan 28^th, 2009 at 2:59pm: Religion is not astronomy or geology. No, but its description of the physical world was required to be believed, was believed and still is believed and accepted as truth by many of the faithful.
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Reply #8 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 3:15pm

My wife has just about the worst situational awareness of anyone I have ever met, she also takes people at face value on what they say and pays no attention to speech emphasis or body language.

I have fairly good situational awareness and am quite observant to the secondry happenings around me, so she thinks it's almost psychic. When we used to go bush walking she used to be completely focused on the destination usually the waterfall at the end of the track, It was quite humorous how much she would miss along the way before she learned to slow down. I usually move through the bush like I'm hunting so you can see quite a lot.

Her mother once made a comment about a person she saw "Look, she must be a very nice lady because she dresses so lovely". So this is an indication of the social education my wife recieved. I explained that the Devil is a renouned snappy dresser and can quote scripture for his purpose. Went completely over her head.

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Reply #10 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 3:37pm

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No, but its description of the physical world was required to be believed, was believed and still is believed and accepted as truth by many of the faithful.

It is not required and never was required. People just believed it because it was the best available theory at the time. When a better theory came along, religion dropped it without a fuss because it isn't what religion is about. People just get hung up on it because they want to believe that religion and science are somehow mutually exclusive and that science somehow validates or invalidates non-scientific beliefs. They will pretend that world history revolved around one or two minor disagreements between scientists and religious bureaucrats. They will pretend that science can somehow disprove God's existence, or that religions make claims that can be subjected to scientific scrutiny. They will deliberately confuse science with the non-scientific claims made by academic media-whores and they will deliberately confuse religion with claims made by people that used religious texts as validation, even though they had nothing to do with religion. They will hold up religious cranks who claim far more academic territory for religion than can be justified as representative of religion, and scientific cranks who claim far more academic territory for science than can be justified as representative of science.

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Re: Intuition and sixth sense
Reply #11 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 3:42pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2009 at 3:21pm:

Like 'Everybody's OK until you get to know them'... All that's left is the rate of one's aquainting.

True. I apply the first part as a common courtesy, then make evaluations on whether a 2nd meeting is mutually or personally benficial. I only have a limited amount of time on this earth Cry

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Re: Intuition and sixth sense
Reply #12 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 3:55pm

freediver wrote on Jan 28^th, 2009 at 3:37pm:

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No, but its description of the physical world was required to be believed, was believed and still is believed and accepted as truth by many of the faithful.

It is not required and never was required. People just believed it because it was the best available theory at the time. When a better theory came along, religion dropped it without a fuss because it isn't what religion is about. People just get hung up on it because they want to believe that religion and science are somehow mutually exclusive and that science somehow validates or invalidates non-scientific beliefs. They will pretend that world history revolved around one or two minor disagreements between scientists and religious bureaucrats. They will pretend that science can somehow disprove God's existence, or that religions make claims that can be subjected to scientific scrutiny. They will deliberately confuse science with the non-scientific claims made by academic media-whores and they will deliberately confuse religion with claims made by people that used religious texts as validation, even though they had nothing to do with religion. They will hold up religious cranks who claim far more academic territory for religion than can be justified as representative of religion, and scientific cranks who claim far more academic territory for science than can be justified as representative of science.

Galileo would've been happy to hear that. He's just done 400 years of Purgatory for his heretical assertions. By the way, Pope John Paul II decreed that scientists may investigate back to the big bang but may not speculate beyond that, because that's in the realm of God's terrain.

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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40763 Gender:	Re: Intuition and sixth sense Reply #13 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 4:04pm Quote: in that people cannot be bothered figuring out why they think something. What is interesting is that A thought occurred. Not why it did.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Intuition and sixth sense Reply #14 - Jan 28^th, 2009 at 10:19pm Islamists like abo intuitively afraid of truth. Why is that?
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