Australian Politics Forum - requirements for prayer

freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	requirements for prayer Feb 8^th, 2009 at 1:14pm What are Muslims required to do before praying?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #1 - Feb 9^th, 2009 at 10:01am Can you be a little more specific? Question is a little vague, although it does sound like you have a certain thing in mind, and are just trying to confirm it... how about being honest and just asking "Do Muslims do X before praying"? The major thing which precedes prayer is ablution... is this what you're referring to?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #2 - Feb 9^th, 2009 at 10:18am Yes, ablution. What is it? What else are they required to do?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #3 - Feb 9^th, 2009 at 8:15pm You don't know what ablution is? There's a fairly detailed Wiki article that describes ablutions and their place in all major world religions, including Islam.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #4 - Feb 10^th, 2009 at 12:58pm So what do they do if there is no convenient place to wash their feet?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #5 - Feb 10^th, 2009 at 8:51pm In the case water is unavailable then dry ablutions may be performed instead.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #6 - Feb 10^th, 2009 at 9:01pm Sand or dust? I wasn't talking about being stuck in the desert Abu. Most modern facilities are designed for washing the hands. Not very convenient for foot washing.
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Re: requirements for prayer
Reply #7 - Feb 10^th, 2009 at 9:14pm

Well, it doesn't mean immersion, you simply put a bit of water on your hands and then rub it over your feet. Although some people do put their feet in the basin (if they're quite acrobatically inclined), this part was correct from Calanen's post.

There's also the dispensation of wiping over socks or shoes.

I remember someone telling me a funny story once about when he was making wudhu in a work washroom, and a non-Muslim colleague questioned him about putting his "dirty feet in the basin", to which he replied: "how many times a day do you wash your hands?" and the colleague said: "2 or 3 times", to which the Muslim replied "Well I wash my feet more than 5 times, so I should be more rightly disgusted about having to wash my nice clean feet in the same place as your filthy hands" Grin

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #8 - Feb 10^th, 2009 at 9:23pm Quote: Well, it doesn't mean immersion, you simply put a bit of water on your hands and then rub it over your feet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wudu It's not sufficient for one to pass wet hand over the feet or shoes.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #9 - Feb 10^th, 2009 at 9:59pm There's difference of opinion.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #10 - Feb 11^th, 2009 at 11:33am So Muslims will go into a public toilet, wet their hands, then wipe their wet hands over their feet? And others will stick their feet in the sink? I'm surprised this is the first I've heard about it. You'd think they'd just figure out where all the hose type taps are.
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Re: requirements for prayer
Reply #11 - Feb 11^th, 2009 at 11:36am

freediver wrote on Feb 11^th, 2009 at 11:33am:

So Muslims will go into a public toilet, wet their hands, then wipe their wet hands over their feet? And others will stick their feet in the sink?

I'm surprised this is the first I've heard about it. You'd think they'd just figure out where all the hose type taps are.

Not just their feet.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48921 At my desk.	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #12 - Feb 11^th, 2009 at 11:36am Their ears as well?
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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #13 - Mar 11^th, 2009 at 7:57am Quote: There's difference of opinion. -Abu And in this instance would those differences be between the truth, and your obfuscation? If you believe that certain, bizarre, rituals are indeed a command from your god, whom you place above all others, then why do muslims seem so embarrassed to admit adhering to them?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: requirements for prayer Reply #14 - Mar 11^th, 2009 at 8:26am mozzaok, I'm not really sure exactly what you mean by that post. Can you clarify a bit more exactly what you mean? Wudhu (ablutions) are most definitely a part of Islam, as they are of most religions. No embarressment about admitting to adhering to it here.
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