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is allah impotent?
Feb 10th, 2009 at 9:39pm
 
Somewhere abu claimed that allah can not procreate.

Is it true?

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Reply #1 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 2:03am
 
Are you serious Tallo?

Who cares if imaginary friends can have imaginary sex, and produce imaginary offspring.

The only relevance is in regard to the Islamic belief of their being only "One" true, imaginary friend, unlike the christian trinity, which has the imaginary, father, the imaginary son, and the imaginary holy ghost, hence the big deal about being only one, with no relatives.
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Reply #2 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 6:31am
 
I thought Allah was a God - doesn't he just help others to procreate?
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Reply #3 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 6:51am
 

Procreation is the necessary act of limited beings, who need to carry on their generations by reproducing.

Why would the creator and sustainer of all existence, need to procreate?
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Reply #4 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 7:23am
 
The important theological question is not about necessity but about ability.
If the allah is impotent and facts this far point that way it means that the claim about it's power is exaggerated. Of course there is a possibility that it can but does not want but that then contradicts the claim about its all-willingness.

So which one is it ... unwillingness or disability?

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Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 12:41pm
 
ROTFLMAO

Lol Abu obviously means SEX... the Muslim hypocrisy and hangup.

If we look at the VIRGIN birth then we accept that God did not have SEX with Mary.  Surely the creator of all, can create a single life without having to have sex.

Moz... NOT ALL Christians believe in the Trinity...  it aint a defining Christian belief.  Catholic yes and others who believe it have slightly different versions of it. For example some use it to describe different aspects of the One God...  as opposed to 3 Gods.

Is Allah impotent....  obviously not.  Even if He doesn't exist, obviously the idea of Allah and the doctrine of Mohammed, is potent.  It has over a billion followers.




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Reply #6 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 2:10pm
 
Now why y'all go an' ask a damn foolish that like that fo? Why course is that ole Alla,  he impotent. Why he vey impotent... He juss about the most impotent thang in the whole Alla-damn universe is all.

Aaand....

He impotent in the mornin', he impotent in tha eevnin.... yeh Lord... he impotent wen de devil out lookin' fo' souls... everybody now... clap yo hands an' sing alaong...

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Reply #7 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 3:05pm
 
Silly question. Abu's answer is correct.

(Almost said 'Abu's nailed it')
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Reply #8 - Feb 11th, 2009 at 7:37pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 11th, 2009 at 3:05pm:
Silly question. Abu's answer is correct.

(Almost said 'Abu's nailed it')


Doesn't it imply that the allah is not allwilling?
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Reply #9 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 5:18am
 
Mr. Rotflmao,

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ROTFLMAO

Lol Abu obviously means SEX... the Muslim hypocrisy and hangup.

If we look at the VIRGIN birth then we accept that God did not have SEX with Mary.  Surely the creator of all, can create a single life without having to have sex.


Creation and procreation are not the same thing. Think you'd better consult a dictionary, you might also find procreation pretty much means "sexual reproduction" (except in the cases of bacteria and some other tiny little organisms).

Tallow,

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Doesn't it imply that the allah is not allwilling?


Greater minds than yours have posed much more complex "problems" than this throughout the history of religion, regarding the "abilities" of an omni-potent creator. Your question is feeble, and easily answered.

The question usually should be a trap though, for instance "Can God create a rock too heavy for him to lift" impotent if he can, impotent if he can't. Your question didn't contain such a trap, which would tend to indicate you don't even fully fathom what it is you're attempting to propose with this thread  Smiley
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Reply #10 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 6:45am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Feb 12th, 2009 at 5:18am:
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The question usually should be a trap though, for instance "Can God create a rock too heavy for him to lift" impotent if he can, impotent if he can't. Your question didn't contain such a trap, which would tend to indicate you don't even fully fathom what it is you're attempting to propose with this thread  Smiley


My question does not have a trap, it is simple and easy to answer according to abu yet no abu nor combined mind of over billion muslims did not produce the answer this far, all they come up with - deleting posts, banning opponents, suicide bombings, etc.  That tells something about the size and qualityof muslim mind.  Smiley
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Reply #11 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 9:31am
 
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Creation and procreation are not the same thing. Think you'd better consult a dictionary, you might also find procreation pretty much means "sexual reproduction" (except in the cases of bacteria and some other tiny little organisms).


Another Abuism; smokescreen, lie, dishonesty.... etc

Gee you think Abu....  that was my point.  You are such a goose.  God the Creator doesn't have to have sex to create life dhimmiwit...  now run along and educate your fellow Muslims.  Good grief how many times does someone have to make the same point.
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Reply #12 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 4:30pm
 
I love your arrogance Grendel, in pointing out your intimate knowledge of the work practices of your designated divine being.

It is almost sweet, with it's child like naivety, like a five year old, explaining to a three year old, how santa operates.
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Reply #13 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 4:49pm
 
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Think you'd better consult a dictionary, you might also find procreation pretty much means "sexual reproduction" (except in the cases of bacteria and some other tiny little organisms).


Plenty of large organisms reproduce asexually.

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Greater minds than yours have posed much more complex "problems" than this throughout the history of religion, regarding the "abilities" of an omni-potent creator. Your question is feeble, and easily answered.


KInd of ironic that you don't answer it then.
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Reply #14 - Feb 12th, 2009 at 6:49pm
 
Let's assume that both God of Christians and the deity of muslims are omnipotent as opposite to impotent we can see major difference between them.
God of Christians  was willing to procreate to save the humanity while the deity of muslims according to abu decided that it is above such tusk.

Actually in the case of God we don't even need to assume the potency as it is self evident from the fact of procreation.

As we can see in the comparison the allah comes well behind.

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