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Reply #15 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 3:51pm
 
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A direct quote from abu,


abu_rashid wrote on Feb 27th, 2009 at 5:06pm:
Wake up to the reality!! All humans are equal,
and when you mess up peoples lives/countries... chances are, they'll goto any lengths to do it back to you... it's not that hard to figure out. Unless your brain is just completely clogged up with hateful propaganda.



Wow!

Where did that come from abu?





So as a muslim, you are stating on this forum, that non-muslims are equal to muslims?

At last, progress.

But i wouldn't let your brothers hear you making such claims!!!
/sarc off

That statement goes against so much of what ISLAM currently states on that matter [on 'unbelievers'].

For instance, what about JOOS?



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The Koran states that it is Allah's will, that muslims must fight against, and exterminate the Jewish ppl.

And here is a muslim cleric, STATING IT.

YOUTUBE
"Hamas - Quran says Jews to be exterminated"

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsvqcp4aWF8





Jews & Christians are peoples who are cursed by Allah.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.030

i.e. Jews & Christians are 'unprotected' from muslim aggression / violence.

Koran,

"....those who reject (Allah),- for them is destruction, and (Allah) will render their deeds astray (from their mark).
....those who reject Allah have no protector."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.008
v. 8-11



"On his death-bed Allah's Apostle....said, "May Allah's Curse be on the Jews and the Christians....."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/056.sbt.html#004.0...





The Hadith [along with many, many, muslim clerics who concur], encourages the extermination of Jews,

"Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." "
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.0...


Google,
until muslims exterminate jews
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=until+muslims+exterminate+jews&btnG=Goog...


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Muslim sausage sizzle
Reply #16 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 4:02pm
 
We also have christian preachers claiming that homos need to be eradicated, and that aids was god's punisment for gays and addicts, so the fact is that many religious zealots preach hateful stuff, not just muslims.

So attaching guilt for the words of extremists, to all followers of any religion, will not give us a true representation of how the average person thinks.
I agree with Abu, people are equal, and I think most people, of most faiths, would agree with that sentiment.
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Re: Muslim sausage sizzle
Reply #17 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 4:09pm
 
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So attaching guilt for the words of extremists, to all followers of any religion, will not give us a true representation of how the average person thinks.
I agree with Abu, people are equal, and I think most people, of most faiths, would agree with that sentiment.


You'd be wrong.

The core beliefs of Islam that you believe to be radical, are what the so called moderate muslims believe. Learn a bit about Islam, what they really believe. Surely Abu's bulls**** is enough to trouble you with what they believe, out of his own mouth?

Didnt you see what I posted from the Muslim Brotherhood's own manual? Didn't that just wake you up even a little bit from your denial?

Nobody wants to believe there is a huge movement to destroy us. But disbelieving the hurricane wont make it go away. Its going to touch down here sooner or later, like it has for more than 1000 years, raping, killing, pillaging, attacking. The so called moderate nature of Islam is there for all to see with the thousands and thousands of people killed every day in the most brutal abominable ways. All for very good reasons of course.

There may be moderate muslims - but there is no moderate Islam.
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Reply #18 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 4:13pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 4:02pm:
We also have christian preachers claiming that homos need to be eradicated, and that aids was god's punisment for gays and addicts, so the fact is that many religious zealots preach hateful stuff, not just muslims.

So attaching guilt for the words of extremists, to all followers of any religion, will not give us a true representation of how the average person thinks.
I agree with Abu, people are equal, and I think most people, of most faiths, would agree with that sentiment.



moz,

I'm just here waiting [in disbelief!], for abu to come on, and to qualify that statement he made!!!       Shocked



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Muslim sausage sizzle
Reply #19 - Mar 1st, 2009 at 1:39pm
 
Yadda,

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Where did that come from abu?


Don't think I've ever stated otherwise, so it shouldn't be that surprising.

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For instance, what about JOOS?


The claims about Muslims and Jews are mostly nonsense. Muslims  today are fighting Jews in Palestine because they've mass immigrated there and taken over the country. Any people would resist, or be weaklings who'd be wiped out, simple. That doesn't lend any credibility though to your claims Islam wants to wipe out Jews. You are well aware they were always treated much better under Islam than under Christianity. But when you mass immigrate into someone's country, they kinda get a little angry with you... who could blame them, really? How would you respond? With love and hugs and kisses right? All that turning the other cheek stuff is just fairytales and you know it. Christians never have, and never will practise it, they just preach it, for propaganda's sake.

Also let us not forget many Christian Arabs have actually martyred themselves fighting against the Zionist entity, not just Muslims. I actually posted a quiz about this not so long ago, not surprisingly  nobody answered it.

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The Koran states that it is Allah's will, that muslims must fight against, and exterminate the Jewish ppl


It does no such thing. Once again, you prove yourself to be nothing but a cowardly liar.

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And here is a muslim cleric, STATING IT.


Again, all we get is "Some cleric said such and such". Sorry I follow Islam, not "some cleric". As I've stated on enough occasions already, there's no such thing as a clergy nor a cleric in Islam.

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Jews & Christians are peoples who are cursed by Allah.


Yes, anyone who follows a false/polytheistic religion is cursed. Your own Bible states exactly the same too, calling them and their beliefs abominations.

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i.e. Jews & Christians are 'unprotected' from muslim aggression / violence.


It says nothing of the kind, this is your imagination, only.

It's quite obvious the meaning is that anyone who rejects God, also rejects his protection and his guidance, and his favour etc.

Do you disagree with this? Do you think the rejecters are the recipients of his favour and protection?

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I'm just here waiting [in disbelief!]


Well you'd better think about becoming a believer then... that's the only way to rise out of your unbelief. Smiley
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Re: Muslim sausage sizzle
Reply #20 - Mar 1st, 2009 at 1:49pm
 
Calanen,

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Didnt you see what I posted from the Muslim Brotherhood's own manual?


You are a liar. You never quoted anything from their 'own manual'.
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Reply #21 - Mar 1st, 2009 at 2:32pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 1st, 2009 at 1:49pm:
Calanen,

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Didnt you see what I posted from the Muslim Brotherhood's own manual?


You are a liar. You never quoted anything from their 'own manual'.


Oh yes I did Abu, Liar Extraordinaire.

Here it is:

http://www.nefafoundation.org/miscellaneous/HLF/Akram_GeneralStrategicGoal.pdf

It outlines the General Strategic Goal for the Muslim Brotherhood in North America.

Are you a member of the Muslim Brotherhood by any chance Abu? Doing a bit of al taqiyya for them?

Here is a document analysing what happened at a meeting in 1993 of the Brotherhood. Very telling. FD should read this:

http://www.nefafoundation.org/miscellaneous/93Phillyfinal.pdf

Very much worth reading. You especially should read it moazzak. I think you are naive more than wilfully blind.

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Reply #22 - Mar 2nd, 2009 at 1:24am
 
Well if it's on nefa, then it must be correct.

Btw, I found a document on an Iranian charity's website which it says is from the U.S government admitting they did 9/11, wanna see it?  Grin

As I said, if your hate wasn't so vicious and foul, you'd be a laughable character.
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Reply #23 - Mar 2nd, 2009 at 7:02am
 
Yeah, yeah Calanen, they’re acomin through the walls… Keep stirring it up lawboy.

What’s the name of this thread again? “Muslim sausage sizzle”? And who are the fanatical extremists again?

And then there’s Ireland… After 400 years of practicing arch-conservative, hardline Catholicism, now that religio-cultural persecution real and perceived has evaporated, the Irish are returning to religious moderation and Catholicism in Ireland is in rapid decline… They may have been ready to concede the loss of their language… but they defended the faith of their fathers to the death… and won.

Persecute a religion and as sure as Paddy likes a pint, it’ll grow back tougher, meaner and harder…. Boyo
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Reply #24 - Mar 2nd, 2009 at 9:08am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 1st, 2009 at 1:39pm:
.... Quote:
The Koran states that it is Allah's will, that muslims must fight against, and exterminate the Jewish ppl


It does no such thing. Once again, you prove yourself to be nothing but a cowardly liar.

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And here is a muslim cleric, STATING IT.


Again, all we get is "Some cleric said such and such". Sorry I follow Islam, not "some cleric". As I've stated on enough occasions already, there's no such thing as a clergy nor a cleric in Islam.



abu accuses me....

".....Once again, you prove yourself to be nothing but a cowardly liar."



No abu.

Once again, i prove that muslims are cowardly liars.

That muslim cleric [in the YOUTUBE clip], claims that the Koran calls on muslims,
incites and encourages muslims
, to exterminate Jews.

WHICH YOU CLAIM IS A LIE!!!!

But you do not criticise that muslim cleric.

Instead, you criticise myself, for pointing out the,
....INCITEMENT TO MURDER JEWS, AND THE
....INCITEMENT OF THE HATRED OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
which muslim clerics engage in.





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Jews & Christians are peoples who are cursed by Allah.


Yes, anyone who follows a false/polytheistic religion is cursed. Your own Bible states exactly the same too, calling them and their beliefs abominations.

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i.e. Jews & Christians are 'unprotected' from muslim aggression / violence.


It says nothing of the kind, this is your imagination, only.

It's quite obvious the meaning is that anyone who rejects God, also rejects his protection and his guidance, and his favour etc.

Do you disagree with this? Do you think the rejecters are the recipients of his favour and protection?




abu,

Oh!!!!

It is only...

'His [Allah's] protection'


And YOU ARE SAYING that it is wrong for muslims to fight against unbelievers?

Are you?

And that only Allah acts against unbelievers?

And that it is illegal in ISLAM for a muslim to fight against 'unbelievers', because they are 'unbelievers'?


"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.0...


"Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." "

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.0...







This next Koran verse is an INCITEMENT, to muslims, to MURDER 'unbelievers'.

Koran,

"....those who reject (Allah),- for them is destruction, and (Allah) will render their deeds astray (from their mark).
....those who reject Allah have no protector."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.008
v. 8-11


YOU MAY DENY IT.


BUT EVERY DAY MUSLIMS ACT UPON SUCH VERSES, AND MURDER PEOPLE.


JUST ONE EXAMPLE, AS PROOF THAT I AM SPEAKING THE TRUTH....

February 5, 2008
70-year-old woman, convert from Islam to Christianity, burned to death in Bangladesh
....DHAKA, BANGLADESH (BosNewsLife)-- Christian villagers in a Muslim-majority area of Bangladesh on Tuesday, February 5, mourned the death of a 70-year-old woman who died from burns she suffered when a mob reportedly set her home ablaze as a punishment for converting from Islam to Christianity.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019813.php



BUT INSTEAD OF CONDEMNING THE ACTIONS OF SUCH MUSLIMS,
....YOU PREFER TO CALL ME A LIAR.





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abu,

Here is my rebuke, to your duplicity, from the Koran....



"Behold! they fold up their hearts, that they may lie hid from Him! Ah even when they cover themselves with their garments, He knoweth what they conceal, and what they reveal: for He knoweth well the (inmost secrets) of the hearts."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/011.qmt.html#011.005


"Then, on the Day of Judgment,.....Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily Allah knoweth all that ye did;"
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/016.qmt.html#016.027
.v 27, 28




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Reply #25 - Mar 2nd, 2009 at 9:26am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 2nd, 2009 at 1:24am:
Well if it's on nefa, then it must be correct.

Btw, I found a document on an Iranian charity's website which it says is from the U.S government admitting they did 9/11, wanna see it?  Grin

As I said, if your hate wasn't so vicious and foul, you'd be a laughable character.


This document was part of Muslim Brotherhood papers seized in a US Federal warrant. It was admitted into evidence over objection in the Holy Land Foundation trial.

It is obviously genuine.

You cant just scream 'fake' whenever anything appears that is inconvenient for you Abu.

No, you are an Al Taqiyaa black belt, so of course you can. Carry on.
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