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abu_rashid wrote on Feb 27^th, 2009 at 5:06pm:



Wow!

Where did that come from abu?





So as a muslim, you are stating on this forum, that non-muslims are equal to muslims?

At last, progress.

But i wouldn't let your brothers hear you making such claims!!!
/sarc off

That statement goes against so much of what ISLAM currently states on that matter [on 'unbelievers'].

For instance, what about JOOS?



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The Koran states that it is Allah's will, that muslims must fight against, and exterminate the Jewish ppl.

And here is a muslim cleric, STATING IT.

YOUTUBE
"Hamas - Quran says Jews to be exterminated"
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsvqcp4aWF8





Jews & Christians are peoples who are cursed by Allah.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.030

i.e. Jews & Christians are 'unprotected' from muslim aggression / violence.

Koran,

"....those who reject (Allah),- for them is destruction, and (Allah) will render their deeds astray (from their mark).
....those who reject Allah have no protector."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.008
v. 8-11



"On his death-bed Allah's Apostle....said, "May Allah's Curse be on the Jews and the Christians....."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/056.sbt.html#004.0...





The Hadith [along with many, many, muslim clerics who concur], encourages the extermination of Jews,

"Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." "
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.0...


Google,
until muslims exterminate jews
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=until+muslims+exterminate+jews&btnG=Goog...

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You'd be wrong.

The core beliefs of Islam that you believe to be radical, are what the so called moderate muslims believe. Learn a bit about Islam, what they really believe. Surely Abu's bulls**** is enough to trouble you with what they believe, out of his own mouth?

Didnt you see what I posted from the Muslim Brotherhood's own manual? Didn't that just wake you up even a little bit from your denial?

Nobody wants to believe there is a huge movement to destroy us. But disbelieving the hurricane wont make it go away. Its going to touch down here sooner or later, like it has for more than 1000 years, raping, killing, pillaging, attacking. The so called moderate nature of Islam is there for all to see with the thousands and thousands of people killed every day in the most brutal abominable ways. All for very good reasons of course.

There may be moderate muslims - but there is no moderate Islam.

Yadda,

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Don't think I've ever stated otherwise, so it shouldn't be that surprising.

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The claims about Muslims and Jews are mostly nonsense. Muslims  today are fighting Jews in Palestine because they've mass immigrated there and taken over the country. Any people would resist, or be weaklings who'd be wiped out, simple. That doesn't lend any credibility though to your claims Islam wants to wipe out Jews. You are well aware they were always treated much better under Islam than under Christianity. But when you mass immigrate into someone's country, they kinda get a little angry with you... who could blame them, really? How would you respond? With love and hugs and kisses right? All that turning the other cheek stuff is just fairytales and you know it. Christians never have, and never will practise it, they just preach it, for propaganda's sake.

Also let us not forget many Christian Arabs have actually martyred themselves fighting against the Zionist entity, not just Muslims. I actually posted a quiz about this not so long ago, not surprisingly  nobody answered it.

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It does no such thing. Once again, you prove yourself to be nothing but a cowardly liar.

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Again, all we get is "Some cleric said such and such". Sorry I follow Islam, not "some cleric". As I've stated on enough occasions already, there's no such thing as a clergy nor a cleric in Islam.

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Yes, anyone who follows a false/polytheistic religion is cursed. Your own Bible states exactly the same too, calling them and their beliefs abominations.

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It says nothing of the kind, this is your imagination, only.

It's quite obvious the meaning is that anyone who rejects God, also rejects his protection and his guidance, and his favour etc.

Do you disagree with this? Do you think the rejecters are the recipients of his favour and protection?

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Well you'd better think about becoming a believer then... that's the only way to rise out of your unbelief.

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 1^st, 2009 at 1:49pm:


Oh yes I did Abu, Liar Extraordinaire.

Here it is:

http://www.nefafoundation.org/miscellaneous/HLF/Akram_GeneralStrategicGoal.pdf

It outlines the General Strategic Goal for the Muslim Brotherhood in North America.

Are you a member of the Muslim Brotherhood by any chance Abu? Doing a bit of al taqiyya for them?

Here is a document analysing what happened at a meeting in 1993 of the Brotherhood. Very telling. FD should read this:

http://www.nefafoundation.org/miscellaneous/93Phillyfinal.pdf

Very much worth reading. You especially should read it moazzak. I think you are naive more than wilfully blind.

Yeah, yeah Calanen, they’re acomin through the walls… Keep stirring it up lawboy.

What’s the name of this thread again? “Muslim sausage sizzle”? And who are the fanatical extremists again?

And then there’s Ireland… After 400 years of practicing arch-conservative, hardline Catholicism, now that religio-cultural persecution real and perceived has evaporated, the Irish are returning to religious moderation and Catholicism in Ireland is in rapid decline… They may have been ready to concede the loss of their language… but they defended the faith of their fathers to the death… and won.

Persecute a religion and as sure as Paddy likes a pint, it’ll grow back tougher, meaner and harder…. Boyo

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2009 at 1:24am:


This document was part of Muslim Brotherhood papers seized in a US Federal warrant. It was admitted into evidence over objection in the Holy Land Foundation trial.

It is obviously genuine.

You cant just scream 'fake' whenever anything appears that is inconvenient for you Abu.

No, you are an Al Taqiyaa black belt, so of course you can. Carry on.