Well I just heard on the radio, that the local muslim community, are having a sausage sizzle, this weekend, to raise money for the bushfire victims.
It is to be held at 955 Sydney Rd, North Coburg, between 12:00 Noon, and 4:00 PM, I believe it is this Saturday, but it may be Sunday, so perhaps Abu could confirm which one it is.

This is an excellent way for our local muslims to engage with the broader community and to do so in the support of such a worthy cause, will hopefully encourage many to go down, and join in, to raise as much as they can for those in need.

I look forward to seeing more of this type of effort in the future, where the whole community comes together to promote worthy causes, and maybe a few prejudices, and stereotypes will get left behind, and we can help shape a more inclusive future for all aussies.

Is it free?
I just love pork sausage and bacon rolls.

Amadd wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 5:42pm:



LOL



Amadd,

Hey you cheap skate!!       

Why not bring your own pork sausages, to share!         



Just kidding.

mozzaok wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 5:45pm:



The fundamental assumption at the bottom of this admirable sentiment is that
1/  religion is as secondary to everyone as it is to you and therefore
2/ common humanity is the rock that we are ultimately all standing on.

The assumption is untenable, as demonstrated daily. Wanting to believe it is not enough. On the other hand, the recognition that the assumption is not universal doesn't mark a lurking nazi.

It does not mean that the assumption is not morally right. It is. To put anything ahead of our shared humanity is either stupid or malicious. But that does not prevent it to be widespread. Nazism or religious fanaticism or mere unthinking dogmatism are mere examples of the many, many more ways to trump common humanity.

Arian national socialism or uncritical adherence to islam both trrump common humanity in their adherents' minds. Yet it does not make an uncritical muslim a nazi or a nazi an uncritical muslim. It just makes them both either stupid or malicious, independently from one another, on account of both rejecting the same thing - our common humanity. They are not the only categories, there are many others who also put something above our common bonds.

(this is not a challenge or an argument, neither 5 nor the full 15 minutes)

Calanen wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 9:37pm:




Calanen,

The ISLAMIST conquers don't intentionally kill the women and children.

They become part of the valuable 'war booty'.




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The Jewish tribe of Banu Qureza, in a besieged settlement were persuaded to surrender to Muhammad and his warriors.

After their surrender, Muhammad asked one of his commanders to determine what should be the fate of those who had surrendered.

From Hadith.....

"......Sad said, "Kill their (men) warriors and take their [women and] offspring as captives, "On that the Prophet said, "You have judged according to Allah's Judgment,""

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/059.sbt.html#005.0...





http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/001.qmt.html#001.001

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 26^th, 2009 at 10:47pm:


Dear oh dear Abu - such low brow stuff. I'll remember to use the roll your eyes smiley next time.

If I was really saying I was a Nazi, I would not have made unflattering comparisons between Nazism and Islam. So just for the record, I hate them both.  Please keep taking your cheapshots though. I understand rhetorical devices are normally above the pay grade of humourless muslim wannabees like yourself.

mozza,

I'm sorry, but I don't see the prospect of being herded into a gas chamber as amusing, nor something that should be toyed with. If you didn't mean it seriously, then your question was in very poor taste.

And I wholeheartedly believe Calanen would have few qualms about engaging in such an activity. He is dedicated to the demonisation and eradication of Muslims and has stated many times in various different ways he'd like to see Muslims disappear off the face off the earth.

You can try and claim it was all quite light hearted, but when we look at Calanen's history, it's obvious he feels quite sincerely about such activities. You might find it hard to believe mozza, but this is what paranoid and unchecked hatred does to people's souls, turns them into blood thirsty hatemongers, who have no problem considering fellow humans as sub-human.

If you fail to recognise this, then it means you're perhaps partially on the road to joining this loon. In which case I'm quite concerned about you as well.

Calanen,

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This statement is quite indicative of just how wrong you've got it all, isn't it?

Firstly, I'm not Shi'a, so I really don't care too much for Mr. Ahmedinejad, and he could hardly be called my "poster child".

Secondly, the conference he held was in response to the offensive Danish cartoons. He wanted to test if the West really believed in freedom of speech (even if it upsets a certain religion) or if it's just hypocritical garbage, and he was proven right. And wouldn't you prefer people responding to the cartoons in that kind of manner, than in a more violent manner? Also some Jewish groups attended the conference anyway, which indicates it can't have been all that bad.

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Your whole claim of Muslims (note: the term Muslims refers to all 1.6 billion, not just some small splinter groups in the foothills of Pakistan) secretly working to demolish your society would be laughable, if it wasn't potentially so dangerous. The Bahai haven't renounced any of 'their ways' as far as I am aware, perhaps you can elaborate on that one a little?

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What you need to come to grips with is that the vast majority of Muslims are not waging any jihad whatsoever. Those people who are, are usually people directly affected by the foreign policy decisions of the West for the past century. You need to learn to link things up with their cause, and the West at large needs to learn this lesson. Because the fact is, what goes around, comes around. The West has been doing a lot of nasty stuff in Muslim countries for a long time now, and it's beginning to come back to haunt them. The onus is upon the perpetrators of the hostilities to first stop their hostile acts in Muslim countries, and second to make amends for the damage already done. Until this occurs, there's probably not much chance of those 'radical' elements calming down.

But that's all irrelevant to you. Your ideology is based upon the premise that Muslims are sub-humans, and no matter what is perpetrated against them, retaliating is just unthinkable. I mean, how dare they, sub-humans, think they can respond in kind to the actions of us full human Westerners... the cheek of such underlings.

Wake up to the reality!! All humans are equal, and when you mess up peoples lives/countries... chances are, they'll goto any lengths to do it back to you... it's not that hard to figure out. Unless your brain is just completely clogged up with hateful propaganda.

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Completely your own words, nothing to do with me using anything, over the top or not. I never mentioned nor imagined gas chambers.

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There's no magic trick, and you don't get to me. You just worry me because ethno-conspiracy loons like you incited stuff like the Jewish pogoroms in Europe and Russia. Some Jewish intellectuals have even noted that the claims of people like yourself almost directly mirror that of the European anti-Semites leading up to those horrible events.

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You are truly delusional. As I have pointed out to you before, Taqiyyah is merely the license to feign apostasy in order to save your life. And to tell you the truth, in my ten years as a Muslim, the only time I've ever really heard of the term is in connection with the Shi'a (who used it to save their lifes under some Sunni regimes in the past). It's simply not the central tenet of Islam you've been duped into thinking it is.

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As you well know, it was all your own words. I never mentioned anything of the kind.