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Can I quote another user in my signature too?
Mar 5th, 2009 at 8:27am
 
So, abu, can I pluck a quote of yours out of context from somewhere on this site, choose which bits to copy, and use it as my signature?
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"We should always say that I may refrain from publishing a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed, but it's because I fear you. Don't for one moment think it's because I respect you." Richard Dawkins
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 8:32am
 
jordan484 wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 8:27am:
So, abu, can I pluck a quote of yours out of context from somewhere on this site, choose which bits to copy, and use it as my signature?


Why not...you've already done it with Waleed Aly.

Hypocrite.
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Reply #2 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:12am
 
It's not out of context, it's not cut in half and it still means what the author intended it to mean.

Abu's signature does not.
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Reply #3 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:20am
 
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So, abu, can I pluck a quote of yours out of context from somewhere on this site, choose which bits to copy, and use it as my signature?


I wouldn't put it past you.

My quote of Calanen isn't out of context. He regularly makes Islamophobic comments, and has demonstrated he despises Muslims and would like to see them eradicated.

Besides wasn't it you who took my avatar, defaced it, then used it as your own? Why ask permission now?
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Reply #4 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:37am
 
No abu, it is out of context and you know it. Without the last sentence it means something completely different and that's what's wrong about it. Don't worry, I'm not suggesting you change it, just making sure you have no problem with others doing the same to you. You know, because you're the giant hypocrite that you are.
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Reply #5 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:52am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:20am:
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So, abu, can I pluck a quote of yours out of context from somewhere on this site, choose which bits to copy, and use it as my signature?


I wouldn't put it past you.

My quote of Calanen isn't out of context. He regularly makes Islamophobic comments, and has demonstrated he despises Muslims and would like to see them eradicated.

Besides wasn't it you who took my avatar, defaced it, then used it as your own? Why ask permission now?


Oh yes it was Abu, you are shameless Al Taqiyya merchant. The whole passage was irony, which is why I quoted the second sentence. And I'll leave it there as long as your pathetic out of context quote remains there.

Islamophobic is a made up word, copied from gays Abu, who used Homophobia in the AIDS awareness campaigns. I wonder if you and the Muslim brothers know that you stole a PR stunt from the homosexual lobby. You should have a float in the Mardi Gras to thank them for the idea.

The term Nazi or Islamophobe is what you use to denigrate and silence your critics, when outright intimidation does not work. Islam can tolerate no criticism, because it is a fascist ideology, so it uses the bullyboy tactics of intimidation, violence, threats, slander and lies to demonise anyone who dares to be a bad dhimmi and criticise it.

The sad thing is - what are there 10 people who use this forum? None of who know my real name - so it's not really demonising anything. Even if it was 100, so what.

I post things here, because I enjoy thinking and communicating. I do not do it because I believe there is a huge audience or watching.
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Reply #6 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:53am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:20am:
My quote of Calanen isn't out of context.




It is, as you know and as it has been explained to you here and on other threads

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1235556216/7#7

Put in the second sentence in your signature if you believe it does not change the meaning of the first.

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Reply #7 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 10:06am
 
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Islamophobic is a made up word


Most words are "made up" when they're first coined. No prizes for that one sorry.

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copied from gays Abu


Possibly, or it was copied from:

Ablutophobia - Fear of washing or bathing.
Acarophobia - Fear of itching or of the insects that cause itching.
Acerophobia - Fear of sourness.
Achluophobia - Fear of darkness.
Acousticophobia - Fear of noise.
Aeroacrophobia - Fear of open high places.
Aeronausiphobia - Fear of vomiting secondary to airsickness.
Aerophobia - Fear of drafts, air swallowing, or airborne noxious substances.
Agliophobia - Fear of pain.
Agoraphobia - Fear of open spaces or of being in crowded, public places like markets. Fear of leaving a safe place. Fear of crowds.
Agraphobia - Fear of sexual abuse.
Agrizoophobia - Fear of wild animals.
Agyrophobia - Fear of streets or crossing the street.
Aichmophobia - Fear of needles or pointed objects.
Ailurophobia - Fear of cats.
Albuminurophobia - Fear of kidney disease.
Alektorophobia - Fear of chickens.
Algophobia - Fear of pain.
Alliumphobia - Fear of garlic.
Allodoxaphobia - Fear of opinions.
Altophobia - Fear of heights.
Amathophobia - Fear of dust.
Amaxophobia - Fear of riding in a car.
Ambulophobia - Fear of walking.
Amnesiphobia - Fear of amnesia.
Amychophobia - Fear of scratches or being scratched.
Anablephobia - Fear of looking up.
Ancraophobia - Fear of wind.
Androphobia - Fear of men.
Anemophobia - Fear of air drafts or wind.
Anemophobia - Fear of wind.
Anginophobia - Fear of angina, choking of narrowness.
Anglophobia - Fear of England, English culture, ect.
Angrophobia - Fear of becoming angry.
Ankylophobia - Fear of immobility of a joint.
Anthophobia - Fear of flowers.
Anthrophobia - Fear of flowers.
Anthropophobia - Fear of people of society.
Antlophobia - Fear of floods.
Anuptaphobia - Fear of staying single.
Apeirophobia - Fear of infinity.
Aphenphosmphobia - Fear of being touched.
Apiphobia - Fear of bees.
Apotemnophobia - Fear of persons with amputations.
Arachibutyrophobia - Fear of peanut butter sticking to the roof of the mouth.
Arachnephobiba - Fear of spiders.
Arachnophobia - Fear of spiders.
Arithmophobia - Fear of numbers.
Arrhenophobia - Fear of men.
Arsonphobia - Fear of fire.
Ashenophobia - Fear of fainting or weakness.
Astraphobia - Fear of thunder and lightning.
Astrapophobia - Fear of thunder and lightning.
Astrophobia - Fear of stars and celestial space.
Asymmetriphobia - Fear of asymmetrical things.
Ataxiophobia - Fear of ataxia (muscular incoordination)
Ataxophobia - Fear of disorder or untidiness.
Atelophobia - Fear of imperfection.
Atephobia - Fear of ruin or ruins.
Athazagoraphobia - Fear of being forgotten or ignored or forgetting.
Atomosophobia - Fear of atomic explosions.
Atychiphobia - Fear of failure.
Aulophobia - Fear of flutes.
Aurophobia - Fear of gold.
Auroraphobia - Fear of Northern Lights.
Autodysomophobia - Fear that one has a vile odor.
Automatonophobia - Fear of ventriloquist's dummies, animatronic creatures, wax statues-anything that falsely represents a sentient being.
Automysophobia - Fear of being dirty.
Autophobia - Fear of being alone or of oneself.
Aviatophobia - Fear of flying.
Aviophobia - Fear of flying.

Hmm, there's a lot more than I thought, perhaps I'll stop at those phobias which start with "A". Anyway you get the drift...

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The term Nazi or Islamophobe is what you use to denigrate and silence your critics


Is "Anti-Semitic" a term used to denigrate and silence critics of Jews?

Islamophobia is made up of Islam and phobia and means a "fear of Islam", you do indeed have a fear of Islam, you've admitted it, but you merely claim it's a well founded fear. Just as I'm sure sufferers of Aulophobia believe their fear of flutes is well founded also.  Grin

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so it's not really demonising anything. Even if it was 100, so what.


Not really meant to demonise you, just to show you up for what your hatemongering represents and what kinds of ideas it puts into your head..

If you don't want to be held to your words, simple solution is choose them carefully. That's about all the advice I can offer you for the future.

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I post things here, because I enjoy thinking and communicating. I do not do it because I believe there is a huge audience or watching.


You post here because you know there's a few other hatemongers like yourself who enjoy whipping up anti-Islamic sentiment. And perhaps cos you've been banned from other forums for your extremist and hateful views.
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Reply #8 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 11:39am
 
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If you don't want to be held to your words, simple solution is choose them carefully. That's about all the advice I can offer you for the future.


You can quote whatever words of mine you like.

You tend not to, you just tend to paraphrase or take things out of context, like the shameless Al Taqiyya Nazi quote.

There are actually few forum boards around that have any sort of dense membership on political matters. Pity really. I guess more people like talking about Britney's hair cut.

No one can criticise the hateful, fascist ideology that is Islam without being a Nazi in your view Abu. An ideology that inspires terror against civilians, war, beheadings, suicide bombings, and the stealth jihad against the West to destroy its institutions. Standing up to such hate, intolerance and the barbarity perpetrated in the name of Islam is a worthy cause.

You seek to justify such things on the basis that its because of the West's actions and so on.  Which shows your true colours.

And as to being afraid of Islam, I'm not. Concerned would be a better word. What do I have to fear? Death? I don't fear that, it's happening sooner or later anyway.  But I do say that people who are afraid of Islam, do have a rational basis for doing so.

It is an ideology that wants their society destroyed, and the followers of Islam installed as their supreme rulers under sharia. And perhaps that is scary to some. I certainly don't want it, nor does anyone else except muslims (and probably clueless lefties like Mantra until they get flogged for not wearing a veil).
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Reply #9 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 12:27pm
 
jordan484 wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:12am:
It's not out of context, it's not cut in half and it still means what the author intended it to mean.

Abu's signature does not.


Lets cut the crap Jordon. Calanen was not taken out of context, in fact his words have been posted word for word...and I challenge you to show how exactly these words are taken out of context.

Mozzoak made the following statement, which Calanen in fact quoted when he replied.

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Can you picture yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers Calanen?
For the greater good, of course.


of which Calanen responded with the following.

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Yes, because I want to stand up and stop Islam - I am a Nazi. It's like saying those who wanted to stand up to the Third Reich were Germanophobes.


To make it a little easier for you, I'll even quote the rest of his post. Where he says...

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Forget tolerance - forget mutual respect. Islam has no tolerance or respect for you and it wants you dead. Your society dead. Your children, wife, family, religion, laws and government,

DEAD.

Get that through your thick skull you moral relativist brainwashed imbecile - or better still - read some Islamic texts.

See what they really think. If everyone had read Mein Kampf, they would have seen Hitler's invasion of Russia a mile off. But not even the Russians believed it. Idiots.


So ironically, after clearly admitting that he wants to push muslims into gas chambers (remember, Mozz asked him "Can you picture yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers ' of which I have shown above, he clearly responded with 'Yes')...he then goes onto claim that it is 'Islam' that wants you 'dead'.

So go on, I challenge you to show how his post has been taken out of context, and more importantly, what context do you believe it was made in.

Like seriously, when someone asks "Can you picture yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers Calanen?"...and the direct response to this statement is ...

"Yes, because I want to stand up and stop Islam - I am a Nazi. It's like saying those who wanted to stand up to the Third Reich were Germanophobes."

Really, the context is rather clear for anyone with half a brain to see. The fact that you can't see it Jordan is rather telling. Either you can see it and are pathetically attempting to use this as a justification to attack abu..again, or you really can't see it, in which case you must be dumber then I first suspected.

So go ahead...you made the claim that his statement was taken out of context..please now share with us all how so.
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Reply #10 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 12:37pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 9:53am:
Put in the second sentence in your signature if you believe it does not change the meaning of the first.



Calanen was asked by Mozzoak quite clearly...

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Can you picture yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers Calanen?


of which Calanen clearly responsds with

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Yes, because I want to stand up and stop Islam - I am a Nazi.


Do you know what  'yes' means dopey? Are you really this stupid or just pretending. I suspect is the former.

Now tell me you miracle of science you (yes, its amazing that someone so stupid can actually function..hence you are a miracle of science)...how does the following sentence, which I will quote for you, change the meaning of the first, where he quite clearly states that 'Yes, he can picture himself pushing muslims into gas chambers'...heck, he even goes on to explain why.

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It's like saying those who wanted to stand up to the Third Reich were Germanophobes.


So tell me...you miracle of science...how does you pea -sized brain interpret this second sentence, and please, tell me how this changes the meaning of the first sentence, and lastly, how does it change the context of what Calanen said and what he was responding to.

he quite clearly admits that he can picture himself pushing muslims into gas chambers...and rather clearly and proudly anounces that he is a NAZi.


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Reply #11 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 1:40pm
 
Sorry, lestat, I really can't help you out if you fail to see how removing the second part directly changes what is meant by the first. It's a classic example of taking something out of context. It's sweet though that you defend your muslim brother. Then again, you have to don't you?
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Reply #12 - Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm
 
Lestat - can you riddle me this batman, if I was really saying I am a Nazi, how could I at the same time be comparing Nazism to Islam?

Wouldn't that mean I was saying that I am Islamic and proud of it? So wouldn't it be, say, 'out of context' to claim that I am a Nazi, genuinely, after comparing Islam with Nazis?

The two don't sit together. If as you say, I truly believe I am a Nazi, then I would be giving Islam a compliment to compare it to the Third Reich. Do you think I was complimenting Islam?

If I was not complimenting Islam, would it be likely or probable, that I was not professing to be a Nazi?

It was a facetious reply, but given your poor English skills I could understand why you would think that 'irony' was in fact literal. For example, if I say 'It's raining cats and dogs' you would say, that this literally meant felines and canine specimens were falling from the sky. AHA you would say, you said it - I went outside and it was only raining WATER! You are a LIAR!

Very perceptive. But, English is a complex language. Ins'hallah you master it one day, by many evenings at the Special School for Dyslexic Adults.
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jordan484 wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 1:40pm:
Sorry, lestat, I really can't help you out if you fail to see how removing the second part directly changes what is meant by the first. It's a classic example of taking something out of context. It's sweet though that you defend your muslim brother. Then again, you have to don't you?



Just as I thought...you don't even know what 'taken out of context' even means.

I asked you to show how removing the second statement changes the meaning of the first, and you are clearly unable to do so.

Calanen's statement is rather clear.

"Yes, because I want to stand up and stop Islam - I am a Nazi. " I'll ask again, how does adding the following sentence change that meaning.

"It's like saying those who wanted to stand up to the Third Reich were Germanophobes. "

Remember the context of his response, which was to Mozzaoks question asking Calanen whether he would throw muslims into gas chambers.

Of which he answered clearly 'Yes', and his following statement does not in any way change the context of the first. Therefore, removing it does not constitute taking one statement 'out of context'.

Of course you can't help me out, you can't even help yourself out.
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Calanen wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm:
Lestat - can you riddle me this batman, if I was really saying I am a Nazi, how could I at the same time be comparing Nazism to Islam?


Forget the Nazi bit...you quite clearly admitted that you can see yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers. The fact that you don't see this as concerning, whilst choosing to deny that you admitted your a Nazi...is telling.

Calanen wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm:
Wouldn't that mean I was saying that I am Islamic and proud of it?


Its not the first time that your nonsense sounded incoherent...I as well as many others have given up trying to make sense of your hate filled rants.

Fact remains...that what was quite clear, was that Mozzoak asked you if you could see yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers...you proudly announced 'yes'..and then followed this with a bewildering 'I am a Nazi'. Nothing that you have said since changes the context of these statements, despite your continuous pathetic pleas.

Calanen wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm:
So wouldn't it be, say, 'out of context' to claim that I am a Nazi, genuinely, after comparing Islam with Nazis?


Yet you clearly admitted that you would 'push muslims into gas chambers'...just as Nazi's pushed Jews into gas chambers. True? Are you denying that you said this.

Therefore, it seems that you have far more in common with Nazi's then muslims do, and given your own words, where you clearly state 'I am NAZI' after admitting to wanting to push muslims into gas chambers is telling evidence.

Calanen wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm:
The two don't sit together. If as you say, I truly believe I am a Nazi, then I would be giving Islam a compliment to compare it to the Third Reich. Do you think I was complimenting Islam?


Nice try lawyer boy...but it seems that you trying to use your pathetic erroneous opinions as evidence....rather ametuerish to say the least.

You admitted that you can see yourself pushing people into gas chambers......it is their for all to read. I don't care whether you compare Islam to Nazi's...its irrelevant. We are not talking about Islam or muslims here...we are talking about YOU. YOU made the statements, it was you that was responding to Mozzoaks statement, and it was you that stated clearly that you could see yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers, and you that for some strange reason which you are yet to actually explain logically, that announced that you are a Nazi.

Calanen wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm:
If I was not complimenting Islam, would it be likely or probable, that I was not professing to be a Nazi?


Once again, you are clearly moving the goal posts in a pathetic attempt to defend yourself.

I asked a simple question. How were you comments taken out of context. In response you've come up with all this dribble which is clearly aimed at muddying the waters.

C'mon lawyer boy...it shouldn't be that hard. How was your statement taken out of context. How else does one interpret this statement...

"Yes, because I want to stand up and stop Islam - I am a Nazi. " I'll ask again, how does adding the following sentence change that meaning. It's like saying those who wanted to stand up to the Third Reich were Germanophobes. "

When responding to this statement...

Can you picture yourself pushing muslims into gas chambers Calanen?

Calanen wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm:
It was a facetious reply, but given your poor English skills I could understand why you would think that 'irony' was in fact literal.


Unfortuanately for you, your posts tell another story...and after reading your hate filled bigotted posts, the possibility of you wanting to kill muslims is not really far fetched at all...then again, being the coward you are, I do agree its highly unlikely. Smiley

As for my poor English skills...haha, this coming from the guy that doesn't realise that the word 'don't' has an apostrophe.

Your poor grammer has already been highlighted by a number of posters...so really, you resorting to my grammer really just comes across as a pathetic point scoring excercise...and says more about you then it does me.

When all else fails, attack his grammar. Cheesy

Calanen wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm:
For example, if I say 'It's raining cats and dogs' you would say, that this literally meant felines and canine specimens were falling from the sky. AHA you would say, you said it - I went outside and it was only raining WATER! You are a LIAR!


lol...putting forward arguments where you argue with what you 'think' I would say...to make your point.

Lol...this gets better and better. Obviously I'm dealing with light weight. A child....your kindergarten tactics are boring me. Smiley

Calanen wrote on Mar 5th, 2009 at 2:05pm:
Very perceptive. But, English is a complex language. Ins'hallah you master it one day, by many evenings at the Special School for Dyslexic Adults.


Well done...think that one up all on your own. Have you used this in a court of law. Cheesy

Keep it up lawyer boy....every time you need to resort to grammar, it just shows how much your struggling to respond.

Keep scraping at the bottom of the barrel...its where you belong.

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