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hilali at it again
Mar 18^th, 2009 at 9:27pm

Well even if the source is as dubious as ACA, the evidence seemed pretty damning, it showed Hilali, on timed security footage, kicking in a door at the mosque, then calling police and saying it was vandals.

The reporter flat out called him on his lie, but he once more claimed to be misunderstood, and appeared to compound his deceit, by trying to continue to cover it up.

How long will local muslims put up with this shameful leader who does nothing but galvanise mistrust of muslims, by the broader community, for their own sake, and reputation, as well as for the good of the local Islamic community, he must be made to go.

As fsr as Australia goes, we would be happy to see the back of this most undignified, and unwholesome man.

Let him go and preach his deceit and intolerance elsewhere.

http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-au&brand=ninemsn&tab=m164&mediaid=213320&from=39&vi...

Here is the link to the current affair footage, it does seem quite damning.

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Reply #1 - Mar 18^th, 2009 at 9:41pm

You have to laugh at him. He's such a liar and a confidence trickster. It's hilarious when he gets angry and shouts back at people for daring to question his "honesty".

But in all seriousness what a waste of police resources. He should be charged for making false claims. In other countries he would be charged for wasting police time.

Surely he wouldn't hold much credibility with the Muslims in Lakemba. He is so convinced of his own self importance.

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Reply #2 - Mar 19^th, 2009 at 11:21am

Hilali and his brothers seek only one thing.

To weaken, and then destroy Australia and all Western nations.

January 7, 2003
Mufti arrested after police struggle
Police will summons the spiritual leader of Australia's Muslim community, following a struggle with a highway patrol officer in Sydney's west yesterday morning.
"The police officer, he try to do his job but not the Australian way," the Mufti said. "I think he try the Chicago way, not Australian way."
Police say the car was found to be unregistered and uninsured and a struggle followed.

Worldwide, there is evidence muslim imams [community leaders] are urging their community members to avoid paying Kuffar taxes - to aid the JIHAD against 'unbelievers'.

cited here,

"Muslims told, view govt benefits as 'tribute'"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1237164198/0#0

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: hilali at it again Reply #3 - Mar 19^th, 2009 at 1:42pm Quote: How long will local muslims put up with this shameful leader who does nothing but galvanise mistrust of muslims, by the broader community, for their own sake, and reputation, as well as for the good of the local Islamic community, he must be made to go. Mozza he's not Mufti and hasn't been for quite a few years now.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: hilali at it again Reply #4 - Mar 19^th, 2009 at 1:45pm Quote: To weaken, and then destroy Australia and all Western nations. I hardly think faking a breakin (if that's what happened) is a step on the path to destroying Australia and all Western nations, but if it makes you feel a little bit safer... ok. Quote: January 7, 2003... Says it all.
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Reply #5 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 8:37am

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 19^th, 2009 at 1:45pm:

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To weaken, and then destroy Australia and all Western nations.

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January 7, 2003
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Says it all.

abu,

Yes, Hilali was doing the same things all those years ago.

It demonstrates the consistency of this person [a devout muslim],
....the consistency of his hatred, contempt, and deception towards the ppl of a country, who welcome such ppl [devout muslims] to live among them.

Dictionary,
consistent = = unchanging over time.

In Hilali's consistent actions and behaviour towards the 'unbelievers', muslim belief in ISLAMIC supremacy and treachery [which is encouraged within ISLAMIC 'holy' texts], is in play, and is being demonstrated.

Hilali is a good muslim, ......Hilali is a muslim.

The muslims will overcome the unbelievers.
And as each new land falls to the influence of ISLAM,
....the unbelievers must see who will win.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/021.qmt.html#021.043
v. 43 & 44

Muslims should be unmerciful towards the unbelievers, but be compassionate amongst each other.
Allah has promised those who believe and do RIGHTEOUS DEEDS, forgiveness, and A GREAT REWARD.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/048.qmt.html#048.029

What do these things mean?

'RIGHTEOUS DEEDS' = = FIGHTING UNBELIEVERS
'A GREAT REWARD.' = = WAR BOOTY.

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.216

ISLAM teaches [which is encouraged within ISLAMIC 'holy' texts] to muslims, that everything that the un-believers have, THEIR LANDS, their possessions, belongs to muslims!

And one day, all these things will belong to muslims.

Allah has overcame the Jews & Christians, 'and cast terror into their hearts'.
Everything that the un-believers have, THEIR LANDS, their possessions, belongs to muslims!
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html#033.025
v. 25 - 27

These verses are an encouragement to muslims to Jihad, to go into the lands of the 'unbelievers',
.....and to strive for victory, and to strive for the 'WAR BOOTY', which is Allah's 'gift' to muslims.

And this is one way in which the muslims conduct their Jihad against 'unbelievers'...

"Muslims told, view govt benefits as 'tribute'"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1237164198/0#0

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: hilali at it again Reply #6 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 9:27am You're a nutter.
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Reply #7 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 10:30am

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 20^th, 2009 at 9:27am:

You're a nutter.

abu,

That 'diagnosis' is a bit rich. Grin

abu,

How do you reconcile these two differing positions, taken by all real muslims?

Position #1

Expressed in the Koran....

"Ye [muslims] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110

Position #2

As expressed by Anjem Choudhury, a UK muslim community leader.

"...when we say innocent people, we mean muslims."

"...if you are a muslim, then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are a non-muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God."

"...as a muslim....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."

Comments, cited in this YOUTUBE presentation....

"Killing of Non-Muslims is Legitimate"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

continued....

Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam
By Duncan Gardham
01/05/2007
In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: "Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".
The article advised: "The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy.There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims. Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/01/nplot901.xml

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Reply #8 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 11:48am

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 20^th, 2009 at 9:27am:

You're a nutter.

I'd have a million of him over one of you.

See his kind of nutter says, love everyone and let's be friends.

Your kind of nutter says 'Let's build roadside bombs and have a jihad.' and makes constant excuses for violence and poor behaviour.

Yadda is also usually saying what he believes, whereas you lie as much as you need to, to put the best spin on the face of Islam.

So I would let a million Yaddas into this country, but not one of you.

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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21703 A cat with a view	Re: hilali at it again Reply #9 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 11:54am Calanen, Thank you, for your support.
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Reply #10 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 1:40pm

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See his kind of nutter says, love everyone and let's be friends.

Your kind of nutter says 'Let's build roadside bombs and have a jihad.' and makes constant excuses for violence and poor behaviour.

Actually if you wanted to make a more realistic comparison you'd compare Yadda to Jim Jones. Becase he resembels Jim Jones as much as I resemble a roadside bomber... since your comparison is purely based on the fact people share a common religion.

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Reply #11 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 1:43pm

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abu,

How do you reconcile these two differing positions, taken by all real muslims?

Perhaps Mr. Choudry, not unlike yourself and Calanen, is exaggerating his stance against non-Muslims a little, because of all the hostilities and injustices that he sees occuring by non-Muslims against Muslims. Calanen and yourself do the same with Islam. Since you see it as causing injustices against non-Muslims you take an extremist view towards it.

You should actually be able to sympathise with his views more than I can no?

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: hilali at it again Reply #12 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 1:53pm Yadda wrote on Mar 20^th, 2009 at 11:54am: Calanen, Thank you, for your support. He still called you a nutter, but.
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Reply #13 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 2:19pm

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 20^th, 2009 at 1:43pm:

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You should actually be able to sympathise with his views more than I can no?

abu,

My 'sympathies' are elsewhere.

With an ex-muslim, smart fellow!.....

"I started this site as a refutation of Robert Spencer and so-called “Islamophobes”. But after much contemplation and study, I must say that Robert Spencer was right all along!
Yes, it is me and I can’t lie to myself anymore"

http://muslimmethod.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/apologies-to-robert-spencer/

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Reply #14 - Mar 20^th, 2009 at 2:26pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 20^th, 2009 at 1:53pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 20^th, 2009 at 11:54am:

Calanen,

Thank you, for your support.

He still called you a nutter, but. Cheesy

LOL

helian,

All the world is mad, except me and thee.

And even i am a little strange. Grin

So that just leaves you, sane helian, on yer 'one'sies' .

The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is suffering from some form of mental illness.
Think of your three best friends.
If they're okay, then it's you.

Rita Mae Brown

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