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Is this fair?
Apr 7th, 2009 at 1:54pm
 
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Defence contractor suspended over neo-Nazi link


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April 6, 2009 - 1:50PM

One of Australia's largest Defence Department-linked companies has suspended a contractor over her alleged links to an international neo-Nazi group.

Nicole Hanley, a bid support manager for Thales - which has hundreds of millions of dollars in Department of Defence contracts - is alleged to have been involved as an administrator of the neo-Nazi web forum Blood & Honour.

The claims have been made by whistleblower site Wikileaks, which has published a hacked database containing private messages between the group's members.

According to the Wikileaks private message trail it is claimed that Hanley has published a detailed online diary of her travels to Europe last year, which included attending several neo-Nazi skinhead gatherings, visiting Adolf Hitler's birthplace, placing flowers on his parents' grave and collecting Nazi memorabilia.

"Hearing/joining in with so many hundreds of people chanting Sieg Heil together is something that will stay with me forever," she allegedly wrote.

The online messages allegedly reveal that Hanley has also hosted international Blood & Honour activists at her house in Canberra and dated several neo-Nazi skinheads.

Blood & Honour, which promotes neo-Nazi music and events, was founded in Britain in 1987 and has been outlawed in Germany and Spain. Its Australian chapter is organising a pro-Hitler gig in Perth for Anzac Day.

In one of her online messages, Hanley is reported as saying that she would like to become "more active in supporting B&H Australia".

"I think that with my skills and background I would have a lot to offer," she wrote.

"Nothing would make me happier than to see B&H Australia become stronger and larger. I would also love to see the skinhead scene in Australia return back to the size and strength of the glory days."

Even though the Department of Defence conducted background checks on all Thales contractors, claims about Hanley's links with neo-Nazi skinhead groups were unknown to Thales or the department until smh.com.au provided copies of the private messages.

Thales immediately began an investigation and suspended Hanley, who is in her 40s, saying it took security "extremely seriously".

It said the matter had been referred to "appropriate authorities for further investigation".

"The person in question was a contractor engaged through an employment agency," a Thales spokeswoman said.

"The contract has been suspended and all access to Thales IT and equipment removed."

The Department of Defence said it could not comment on security allegations relating to specific people, but would have concerns about employees known to have links with nationalist extremist or racial organisations. It would not comment on Hanley's security clearance level.

In another message attributed to her she discussed how she listened to a white supremacist online radio show.

Reached at her home on Friday and this morning, Hanley refused to comment on the allegations and threatened legal action over any future reports based on the material published by Wikileaks.

"I'm under legal advice not to speak to you," she said, before hanging up.

Thales, which refused to give any further details about the investigations or about Hanley, generates about $1 billion in revenues annually and specialises in high technology defence products such as electronic warfare, munitions and protected mobility vehicles.

Mat Henderson, a volunteer with Australian anti-racism group Fight dem back, said bad economic times were always a fertile recruitment ground for racist groups.


Source: SMH
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/web/contractor-suspended-over-neonazi-link/2009/04/06/1238869885378.html
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Reply #1 - Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:06pm
 
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Reached at her home on Friday and this morning, Hanley refused to comment on the allegations and threatened legal action over any future reports based on the material published by Wikileaks.


If it is unfair dismissal she can take the company to court. It would be interesting to follow up.

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Reply #2 - Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:11pm
 
tallowood wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:06pm:
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Reached at her home on Friday and this morning, Hanley refused to comment on the allegations and threatened legal action over any future reports based on the material published by Wikileaks.


If it is unfair dismissal she can take the company to court. It would be interesting to follow up.



Well seeing who the courts are run by... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-W56D3XJN8... it's pretty easy to see how her legal action would end.

I'm just curious to see how other people see this situation. To me, it's strange to sack someone just because they have Neo-Nazi links. I mean, is that grounds to sack someone?
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Reply #3 - Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:33pm
 
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:11pm:
tallowood wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:06pm:
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Reached at her home on Friday and this morning, Hanley refused to comment on the allegations and threatened legal action over any future reports based on the material published by Wikileaks.


If it is unfair dismissal she can take the company to court. It would be interesting to follow up.



Well seeing who the courts are run by... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-W56D3XJN8... it's pretty easy to see how her legal action would end.

I'm just curious to see how other people see this situation. To me, it's strange to sack someone just because they have Neo-Nazi links. I mean, is that grounds to sack someone?


I looks more like security reason.
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Even though the Department of Defence conducted background checks on all Thales contractors, claims about Hanley's links with neo-Nazi skinhead groups were unknown to Thales or the department until smh.com.au provided copies of the private messages.

Thales immediately began an investigation and suspended Hanley, who is in her 40s, saying it took security "extremely seriously".


They ask questions about a candidate's associations and if she forgot to mention these details while was checked for security clearance she became suspect when the allegations surfaced.

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Reply #4 - Apr 7th, 2009 at 5:47pm
 
tallowood wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:33pm:
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:11pm:
tallowood wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:06pm:
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Reached at her home on Friday and this morning, Hanley refused to comment on the allegations and threatened legal action over any future reports based on the material published by Wikileaks.


If it is unfair dismissal she can take the company to court. It would be interesting to follow up.



Well seeing who the courts are run by... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-W56D3XJN8... it's pretty easy to see how her legal action would end.

I'm just curious to see how other people see this situation. To me, it's strange to sack someone just because they have Neo-Nazi links. I mean, is that grounds to sack someone?


I looks more like security reason.
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Even though the Department of Defence conducted background checks on all Thales contractors, claims about Hanley's links with neo-Nazi skinhead groups were unknown to Thales or the department until smh.com.au provided copies of the private messages.

Thales immediately began an investigation and suspended Hanley, who is in her 40s, saying it took security "extremely seriously".


They ask questions about a candidate's associations and if she forgot to mention these details while was checked for security clearance she became suspect when the allegations surfaced.



I understand that the newspaper says that she posed a 'security threat,' but in what actual way is she a security threat for being involved in a neo-nazi organisation?
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Reply #5 - Apr 7th, 2009 at 6:10pm
 
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:11pm:
tallowood wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:06pm:
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Reached at her home on Friday and this morning, Hanley refused to comment on the allegations and threatened legal action over any future reports based on the material published by Wikileaks.


If it is unfair dismissal she can take the company to court. It would be interesting to follow up.



Well seeing who the courts are run by... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-W56D3XJN8... it's pretty easy to see how her legal action would end.

I'm just curious to see how other people see this situation. To me, it's strange to sack someone just because they have Neo-Nazi links. I mean, is that grounds to sack someone?



I wondered about that too - if she was in the Communist Party or the Left Alliance, would they have sacked her still?
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Reply #6 - Apr 8th, 2009 at 9:33pm
 
Calanen wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 6:10pm:
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:11pm:
tallowood wrote on Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:06pm:
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Reached at her home on Friday and this morning, Hanley refused to comment on the allegations and threatened legal action over any future reports based on the material published by Wikileaks.


If it is unfair dismissal she can take the company to court. It would be interesting to follow up.



Well seeing who the courts are run by... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-W56D3XJN8... it's pretty easy to see how her legal action would end.

I'm just curious to see how other people see this situation. To me, it's strange to sack someone just because they have Neo-Nazi links. I mean, is that grounds to sack someone?



I wondered about that too - if she was in the Communist Party or the Left Alliance, would they have sacked her still?


They probably would have been promoted.
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