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Reply #15 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 11:34am

Calanen wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 10:09am:

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 2:05am:

What does giving 'everyone a fair go' actually mean, Mozzaok?

It means letting as many people into the country that believe in the violent overthrow of our country's government, the installation of theocratic fascism, supporting terror and hatred of women, and that anyone who challenges such a philosophy is a nazi islamophobe race hater.

So hurry, join up now at Joe’s Academe d’Over-egged and Ham... and soon, like the counsellor, you’ll be up to your arse in it.

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Reply #16 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 12:31pm

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It means letting as many people into the country that believe in the violent overthrow of our country's government, the installation of theocratic fascism, supporting terror and hatred of women, and that anyone who challenges such a philosophy is a nazi islamophobe race hater.

You would have loved the news about the RNS chapel being stripped off its crosses and Christian memorabilia a couple of weeks ago Calanen. But it wasn't the minority groups who protested about the Chapel's obvious Christian displays - it was some nursing bureaucrat in the health system.

Although I agree with Mozzaok that multiculturalism should mean giving people a fair go - the bigger picture is becoming obvious. It often does appear necessary for us to display a "cultural cringe". Not with all races and religions of course, but there are some minority groups here who believe we are an inferior species. They are more dominant and aggressive than us as we have seen recently seen.

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Re: Racist sexist attitudes in Cronulla
Reply #19 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 5:40pm

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John Howard followers who now even don't hesitate to accuse PM Kevin Rudd of being Chinese spy, when the rest of the world price him as exceptional brain, diplomat and leader.

Please spare us. The rest of the world wouldn't know who he was. To the USA he is the guy on Jay Leno that ate his own ear wax.

And if in the USA the Secretary of Defence had an apartment in DC paid for by some croney of the Chinese government, he would be impeached and strung up by the balls. Here it's just 'look the other way, nothing to see here' The people within defence leaked it, because it was a national security issue. The Defence Minister getting paid trips by some 'associate' of the big whigs in China, and getting to live in an apartment provided by this woman - that is outrageous.

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Reply #20 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 6:50pm

Calanen wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 5:40pm:

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John Howard followers who now even don't hesitate to accuse PM Kevin Rudd of being Chinese spy, when the rest of the world price him as exceptional brain, diplomat and leader.

Please spare us. The rest of the world wouldn't know who he was. To the USA he is the guy on Jay Leno that ate his own ear wax.

And if in the USA the Secretary of Defence had an apartment in DC paid for by some croney of the Chinese government, he would be impeached and strung up by the balls. Here it's just 'look the other way, nothing to see here' The people within defence leaked it, because it was a national security issue. The Defence Minister getting paid trips by some 'associate' of the big whigs in China, and getting to live in an apartment provided by this woman - that is outrageous.

So are you saying that Kevin Rudd is Chinese spy?
What about John Howard, was he British or American spy?

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Re: Racist sexist attitudes in Cronulla
Reply #21 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 6:58pm

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So are you saying that Kevin Rudd is Chinese spy?

No. I'll say, what I say.

The Defence Minister was a rank noob to let himself be so easily manipulated by China by accepting free trips there and a free apartment to use in Canberra. That is called a 'Conflict of Interest'. That's the sort of stuff a school kid wouldn't fall for, and yet we have OUR DEFENCE MINISTER falling for it, which is why Defence got so angry. That is amateur hour par exemplar.

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Reply #22 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 7:33pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 6:23am:

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The culture that defines Australia and separates us from other nations is the culture that developed and shaped this nation prior to the 1980s.

That'd include the migration of Italians, Greeks and other displaced people after the war then.

Don't let the old codgers hear you say that. The ones left who think the 'deigos and wogs' destroyed their Shangri-La.

No doubt about it, we're products of our times.

Gee, didn't see that coming. Roll Eyes

Actually, I don't think Meditteranean people dispaced after the war contributed that much to our cultural identity, Helian. Other than falsely convincing Australians that they are lazy people, of course.

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Re: Racist sexist attitudes in Cronulla
Reply #23 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 7:38pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 12:54pm:

Very few people who don't believe deep down that their formative culture is superior to all others.

I had trouble decoding what you wrote, Helian.

So please tell me if I'm correct or not.

...were you trying to say that every person thinks that their former culture is superior?

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Re: Racist sexist attitudes in Cronulla
Reply #24 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 7:39pm

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Who are these British fascists you speak of?

John Howard followers who now even don't hesitate to accuse PM Kevin Rudd of being Chinese spy, when the rest of the world price him as exceptional brain, diplomat and leader.

Well, I for one dislike Howard and his administration greatly, Athos. Does that rule me out?

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Re: Racist sexist attitudes in Cronulla
Reply #25 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 8:01pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 7:33pm:

Gee, didn't see that coming. Roll Eyes

Actually, I don't think Meditteranean people dispaced after the war contributed that much to our cultural identity, Helian. Other than falsely convincing Australians that they are lazy people, of course.

Didn't see it coming? Of course you didn’t. For you the Australia in 1980 was the story so far, the world into which you were thrown, and is now your golden age… Like the 60’s is to Gen X or post war to baby boomers.

Don’t know if they convinced us we were lazy, as much as simply by example they changed the Australian definition of ‘hard worker’. Australia is now one of the hardest working nations in the Western world. A stark contrast to its former more than slightly disparaging epithet, ‘The land of the long weekend’. Maybe the examples set by Mediterranean peoples rubbed off.

Australia was changed almost beyond recognition by immigrant Mediterranean peoples.

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Reply #26 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 8:03pm

athos wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 6:50pm:

Calanen wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 5:40pm:

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John Howard followers who now even don't hesitate to accuse PM Kevin Rudd of being Chinese spy, when the rest of the world price him as exceptional brain, diplomat and leader.

Please spare us. The rest of the world wouldn't know who he was. To the USA he is the guy on Jay Leno that ate his own ear wax.

And if in the USA the Secretary of Defence had an apartment in DC paid for by some croney of the Chinese government, he would be impeached and strung up by the balls. Here it's just 'look the other way, nothing to see here' The people within defence leaked it, because it was a national security issue. The Defence Minister getting paid trips by some 'associate' of the big whigs in China, and getting to live in an apartment provided by this woman - that is outrageous.

So are you saying that Kevin Rudd is Chinese spy?
What about John Howard, was he British or American spy?

Rudd worked for DFAT. Do you know any agencies which are under DFAT? He speaks fluent Mandarin. He wants closer ties with China. He is trying to put through Chinese style censorship. He has ministers in trouble regarding Chinese links.

Rudd is a traitor.

As is Howard.

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Re: Racist sexist attitudes in Cronulla
Reply #27 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 8:10pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 7:38pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 12:54pm:

Very few people who don't believe deep down that their formative culture is superior to all others.

I had trouble decoding what you wrote, Helian.

So please tell me if I'm correct or not.

...were you trying to say that every person thinks that their former culture is superior?

[There are] very few people who don't believe that their formative culture is superior to all others... i.e. Most people would tend to feel that the culture, which made them who they are, is superior to all others. It's a natural emotional response to otherness.

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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: Racist sexist attitudes in Cronulla Reply #28 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 8:34pm Then why are so many people keen on investigating foreign cultures and and religions and adopting them, especially in this country? There is a large interest in eastern religions and philosophy as well as new age thought prevalent in Australian society.
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Re: Racist sexist attitudes in Cronulla
Reply #29 - Apr 12^th, 2009 at 8:35pm

easel wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 8:03pm:

athos wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 6:50pm:

Calanen wrote on Apr 12^th, 2009 at 5:40pm:

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John Howard followers who now even don't hesitate to accuse PM Kevin Rudd of being Chinese spy, when the rest of the world price him as exceptional brain, diplomat and leader.

Please spare us. The rest of the world wouldn't know who he was. To the USA he is the guy on Jay Leno that ate his own ear wax.

And if in the USA the Secretary of Defence had an apartment in DC paid for by some croney of the Chinese government, he would be impeached and strung up by the balls. Here it's just 'look the other way, nothing to see here' The people within defence leaked it, because it was a national security issue. The Defence Minister getting paid trips by some 'associate' of the big whigs in China, and getting to live in an apartment provided by this woman - that is outrageous.

So are you saying that Kevin Rudd is Chinese spy?
What about John Howard, was he British or American spy?

Rudd worked for DFAT. Do you know any agencies which are under DFAT? He speaks fluent Mandarin. He wants closer ties with China. He is trying to put through Chinese style censorship. He has ministers in trouble regarding Chinese links.

Rudd is a traitor.

As is Howard.

Have you ever thought that as a real (qualified ) diplomat, he recognises the fact, as the rest of pragmatic world does, that China is becoming the centre of the gravity of the economical world. In other words closer relation with China maybe means saving your arse when your fragile mammy Brittan is on the brink of collapse.
You should be proud of the fact that you have a knowledgeable and intelligent Prime Minister who can speak fluent Mandarin unlike any other western leader. Should it be considered as a sin or as an advantage?

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