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Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:08pm

A story which we will not see on Australian mainstream media 6 o'clock news tonight.

Well, maybe we will.

But i doubt it.

I would be very surprised if this story gets any airing in the West.

A story exposing the out and out exploitation of the vulnerable and helpless....
.....in this case, by her own father.

Wanna buy a movie star?

April 19, 2009
Slumdog Millionaire star offered for sale by her father
A theology and culture that reduces women to commodities gives rise to this kind of thing. Islam Respects Women Update: "Slumdog Millionaire star Rubina Ali for sale: Father tries to cash in on daughter's fame,"
.....As he offered the shocking deal to the News of the World's undercover fake sheik this week, Rafiq declared: "I have to consider what's best for me, my family and Rubina's future."
Rafiq tried to blame Hollywood bosses for forcing him to put his daughter up for SALE.
As he tried to fix the illegal adoption deal, real-life slum dweller Rafiq declared: "We've got nothing out of this film."

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/271325/Slumdog-Millionaire-star-Rubina-Ali-...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025744.php

No doubt this particular story 'came to light', because of the 'celebrity' of the intended victim.

But what of all those other unprotected young girls, we never hear of???

Should we be outraged and disgusted by such stories?

Or is it 'none of our concern'?

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

And we, are doing it.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Not on Oz MSM 6 o'clock news tonight. Reply #1 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:13pm Yadda, please... Poverty is what causes this kind of depravity... Do you think child selling wouldn't occur in very Christian South America?
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skippy Ex Member	Re: Not on Oz MSM 6 o'clock news tonight. Reply #2 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:25pm That story was on 7 news last night.
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Reply #3 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:34pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:13pm:

Yadda, please... Poverty is what causes this kind of depravity.
.. Do you think child selling wouldn't occur in very Christian South America?

helian,

Please, moral corruption is what causes this kind of depravity.

Your assertion is a slur on all ppl living in poverty, decent ppl, who would never consider such a low act,
.....despite their poverty.

Skippy,

Thank you for that info.

I did not catch it.

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Reply #4 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:48pm

Yes, the story's been broadcast everywhere...

The full story was that the father tried to sell her for adoption not to a brothel or something just as evil.

The film makers decided 'not to shower the child actors from Mumbai’s shantytowns with cash for fear of having “a transformative impact on their lives”. '

The harsh reality of life in a slum is such : “We live in one room, seven of us sleep on the floor. I earn £2 to £3 a day. I have to consider what is best for me, my family and for Rubina’s future,”.

It reminds me of what an anglo-indian friend of mine told me about his sister's attempt to adopt an orphaned 5 year old Indian boy who was a beggar at a Mumbai train station. He came home from begging one day when he was probably not much older than 3 to find the family had just upped and moved. He'd been begging at the station on his own ever since. However when they inquired about adopting him, Indian bureaucracy being what it is, the authorities needed to know what his religion was. The boy didn't know if he was Hindu, Sikh or Christian and that's where it got stuck in the bureaucratic pipe.

Rather the kid suffer on the street than be given to caring parents of the wrong religion.

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Reply #5 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:51pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:34pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 1:13pm:

Yadda, please... Poverty is what causes this kind of depravity.
.. Do you think child selling wouldn't occur in very Christian South America?

helian,

Please, moral corruption is what causes this kind of depravity.

Your assertion is a slur on all ppl living in poverty, decent ppl, who would never consider such a low act,
.....despite their poverty

Geez you're naive, Yadda.

What is it about religious moralisers? Like the Pope preaching to the impoverished third world about the evils of contraception.

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Reply #7 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 2:17pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 2:06pm:

helian,

I can't believe what you are justifying, defending, on this forum.

I am disgusted.

Our poverty or wealth, has nothing to do with our morality.

Period.

Evil, is evil.

It is not, it is never, justified.

"Our poverty or wealth, has nothing to do with our morality." what a joke.

Do you think you, your wife and your eight kids who have been living for 5 years in a cave on one dollar a day in a country with no social safety net will not be affected and will not alter the destiny and outlook of your family?

From what is being reported, the father tried to sell her for adoption to a very rich family so Rubina could have the chances, after we in the west got bored with their fame, that her slum dwelling neighbours could only dream of. The 200 grand would have assured the rest of the family a chance at education and a decent life. It was probably more like "either/or" than an act of evil.

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Reply #8 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 2:32pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 2:17pm:

"Our poverty or wealth, has nothing to do with our morality." what a joke.

Do you think you, your wife and your eight kids who have been living for 5 years in a cave on one dollar a day in a country with no social safety net will not be affected and will not alter the destiny and outlook of your family?

From what is being reported, the father tried to sell her for adoption to a very rich family so Rubina could have the chances, after we in the west got bored with their fame, that her slum dwelling neighbours could only dream of. The 200 grand would have assured the rest of the family a chance at education and a decent life. It was probably more like "either/or" than an act of evil.

helian,

The morality you justify....

Quote:

I'm poor, i have a large family.

The bank has money.

With money i can provide for my family.

Therefore, ....the moral thing, is that i should rob the bank.

Coz, .....money solves all of mankind's problems.

Sure.
/sarc off

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Reply #9 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 3:28pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 2:32pm:

helian,

The morality you justify....

Quote:

I'm poor, i have a large family.

The bank has money.

With money i can provide for my family.

Therefore, ....the moral thing, is that i should rob the bank.

Coz, .....money solves all of mankind's problems.

Sure.
/sarc off

Poverty forces people to make stark moral choices. Either I give up a child for adoption or all eight children have almost nothing and can abandon hope of having the wherewithal to rise above their pathetic state. That'd be one reason why we have such a generous welfare system... so no Australian need make such a terrible choice.

And another thing... you started this thread to take another swipe at Muslims (never mind the same stuff goes on wherever there is poverty). I don't see much honour, let alone morality, in that.

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Reply #10 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 3:36pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 3:28pm:

Poverty forces people to make stark moral choices
.

helian,

Exactly so.

Think about your statement.

Myself, i may have rather phrased what you said, like this,

"Life forces people to make stark moral choices."

Quote:

And another thing... you started this thread to take another swipe at Muslims
(never mind the same stuff goes on wherever there is poverty). I don't see much honour, let alone morality, in that.

Did i?

Am i a wicked person for shining a LIGHT on such evil?

That, to me, appears to be what you are suggesting.

And if you want to suggest that, i am not offended.

I am happy for you to make that suggestion.

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Reply #11 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 3:45pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 3:36pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 3:28pm:

Poverty forces people to make stark moral choices
.

helian,

Exactly so.

Think about your statement.

Quote:

And another thing... you started this thread to take another swipe at Muslims
(never mind the same stuff goes on wherever there is poverty). I don't see much honour, let alone morality, in that.

Did i?

Am i a wicked person for shining a LIGHT on such evil?

That, to me, appears to be what you are suggesting.

And if you want to suggest that, i am not offended.

I am happy for you to make that suggestion.

And in the case of the father and the daughter... there is a justifiable morality in the action he took, given he didn't sell her to be molested. Check out what people with large families sometimes did during the depression... often sending children to live with childless or well off relatives (close and distant).

Wicked? No just a deceiver. I don't expect much better from many Christians.

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Reply #12 - Apr 20^th, 2009 at 3:51pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 20^th, 2009 at 3:45pm:

And in the case of the father and the daughter... there is a justifiable morality in the action he took, given he didn't sell her to be molested
. Check out what people with large families sometimes did during the depression... often sending children to live with childless or well off relatives (close and distant).

Wicked? No just a deceiver. I don't expect much better from many Christians.

helian,

That, is a very 'liberal' point of view, opinion, to proffer.

I'm not sure how accurate that opinion is though????

Google,
child sexual abuse islam

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Reply #13 - Apr 21^st, 2009 at 12:31am

Had a look for child exploitation in South America...

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Brazil is considered to have the worst child sex trafficking record after Thailand. According to the recently released Protection Project report, various official sources agree that from 250,000 to 500,000 child live as child prostitutes. Other sources in Brazil put the number at up to 2,000,000 children.

Google,
child sexual abuse brazil

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Reply #14 - Apr 21^st, 2009 at 12:52pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 21^st, 2009 at 12:31am:

Had a look for child exploitation in South America...

Quote:

Brazil is considered to have the worst child sex trafficking record after Thailand. According to the recently released Protection Project report, various official sources agree that from 250,000 to 500,000 child live as child prostitutes. Other sources in Brazil put the number at up to 2,000,000 children.

Google,
child sexual abuse brazil

helian,

Yes.

Clearly there is a lot of evil in the world.

Q.
Is child sexual abuse 'institutionalised' in Brazil, and sanctioned by secular courts in that country?

Or is it legal to 'sell' your 8, 9, 10 year old daughter? in Brazil?

Is it legal to murder your daughter in Brazil?
if she 'dishonours' the family?

Because in a Sharia jurisdictions, it is legal, for a father to murder his daughter.

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