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Apr 22nd, 2009 at 9:27am
 
This seems to be a largely unjust unwarranted article.
The vast majority of women are wonderful creatures.

Sure, some women are rude. Other women do not like that aspect of their nature.


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GOOD manners can be the making of a modern woman, according to June Dally-Watkins.

Unfortunately, modern women are ignoring the advice of this matriarch of Australian deportment.

If the evidence screened on a recent popular reality television show is to be believed then certain young, modern, Australian women are not only completely lacking in good manners but they are also foul-mouthed, loud and uncultured.

Tell us: Do you think Aussie women are rude?While the terms "yobette" and "ladette" have now passed into common usage, it's interesting to look at just how far the modern woman – regardless of age, race, status or income – has sunk in her attempt to "live in a man's world".

Many Australian women are now socially inept, particularly when it comes to manners – from the businesswoman who orders the hotel concierge to get them a cab "quick smart" to the moody shop assistant who rolls her eyes when asked for help and then turns to the next assistant and announces that she cannot wait to knock off.

A Brisbane businessman recently revealed that, when he opened a door for two professional women exiting an office, he received no acknowledgement only to have a glass door slammed in his face after following them out. Many men are now becoming reluctant to open doors for women because they merely get "huffed" at and pushed aside.

Women in the 40 to 60-year-old age bracket regard footpaths, aisles and malls as theirs alone. Put two or three of these women together and everyone must make way for them. In their world nothing comes between them and their conversation, certainly not manners or respect.

Fewer men now stand up on buses and trains to offer a seat – even to elderly women. I've heard of grannies accusing blokes of considering them "invalid" because they've been offered a seat.

Being an "invisible" man is a common male complaint. This occurs when rude women just push in and stand in front of men in a queue.

Unfortunately, it has become accepted that many modern women no longer care about politeness.

Maybe men are at fault. We are so unaccustomed to this new breed of woman that we don't know what to do.

Many modern women are totally self-reliant. They have rewarding careers and are financially independent. She has travelled across the globe, can afford to buy her own meals and is accustomed to a man asking her out just for the pleasure of her company.

Good manners displayed by men or women should serve to make interacting with other people a pleasant experience.

Modern women mistakenly seem to believe good manners are not something a modern man holds as an aspiration. Isn't it a pity more and more modern women grow up with an indifference to the niceties that used to be normal?




http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25365800-952,00.html
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Reply #1 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 9:57am
 
Working in the mining industry, which now has a high number of females, I see women that just do their job well and have a laugh with the rest of the crew, and on the flip side there are are women who are so caught up in proving that they are better than the men that they are actually dis-liked by both the men and women.
the fact is most guys don't really care, if thats the job you want to do then good, but it is a dangerous job so just concentrate on what you are doing because their are people better at it than you and people worse, just like the rest of us.

Some women are a little to caught up in trying to prove they can be successful at what they do, but the reality is most men are not threatened by this and don't care whether you are male or female. Personaly and from my experience people who go out of their way to prove they are just as good or better than any one else are just average and trying to appear to be good, and like i told a young fella at work  "mate no one gives a f*ck how good you say you are, they can see the truth in what you do"
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Reply #2 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 11:40am
 
merou wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 9:57am:
Working in the mining industry, which now has a high number of females, I see women that just do their job well and have a laugh with the rest of the crew, and on the flip side there are are women who are so caught up in proving that they are better than the men that they are actually dis-liked by both the men and women.
the fact is most guys don't really care, if thats the job you want to do then good, but it is a dangerous job so just concentrate on what you are doing because their are people better at it than you and people worse, just like the rest of us.

Some women are a little to caught up in trying to prove they can be successful at what they do, but the reality is most men are not threatened by this and don't care whether you are male or female. Personaly and from my experience people who go out of their way to prove they are just as good or better than any one else are just average and trying to appear to be good, and like i told a young fella at work  "mate no one gives a f*ck how good you say you are, they can see the truth in what you do"



Good advice to that young guy merou and the same is true for women as well...

Do women still get jobs in mining right this minute merou, because Im heading up that way and very much hoping so..what kind of jobs are they doing?
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Reply #3 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 11:46am
 
Sprint, whilst I think we need the June Dallywatkins of this world..she has become out of touch with who and what the modern woman represents for her generation, so the fact she describes women as vulgar and yobbish does not surprise me at all.

She is stuck in the socailite world of the fifties and whilst it is rather quaint , she has become rather irrelevant as a woman that will continue to influence this younger generation of this era .

A lot of the girls out there need a June Dallywatkins on their shoulder when they start throwing up in bars etc but its a new era.. move over Ms Watkins and pack away your tweed jacket and gloves for heavens sake...
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Reply #4 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:08pm
 
mining is an open workforce, women are doing the same jobs as men, in the office and in the pit. Now is a tough time to get into the industry experienced or not but worth the effort, it took me nearly two years to finally get my first break but it has paid off. I am now operating the largest mining equipment in the world.When you are up this way if you want to email me a resume I can forward it on.
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Reply #5 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:22pm
 
I agree with Merou, in that most people will judge you on what you do, rather than what you 'say' you can do, and whether you are male or female, does not much come into play.

As for June Dally-Watkins, to say she is out of touch with the modern world, and modern women, who do not place the same importance on 'deportment' that she does, is probably a pretty fair call, and while there may be an increase in uncouth behaviour amongst some young women, I think we should not ignore the fact that young men have been displaying such uncouth behaviour, without comment, for generations.

I think that all young people could benefit from a greater appreciation of the social graces, but I don't think it is fair to single young women out alone, with that call.
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Reply #6 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:49pm
 
merou wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:08pm:
mining is an open workforce, women are doing the same jobs as men, in the office and in the pit. Now is a tough time to get into the industry experienced or not but worth the effort, it took me nearly two years to finally get my first break but it has paid off. I am now operating the largest mining equipment in the world.When you are up this way if you want to email me a resume I can forward it on.


Thank you very much merou, I'll pm you before I leave and get that email address from you...Ive heard from my sister who lives in Pt Hedland that whilst jobs are not so plentiful atm..the economy is still strong ,housing and rental is still steady and growing and the they are still buliding more mining infrasructure, so it seems to be regarded by business's more of a lull than a bust.
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Reply #7 - Apr 22nd, 2009 at 10:03pm
 
merou wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:08pm:
mining is an open workforce, women are doing the same jobs as men, in the office and in the pit. Now is a tough time to get into the industry experienced or not but worth the effort, it took me nearly two years to finally get my first break but it has paid off. I am now operating the largest mining equipment in the world.When you are up this way if you want to email me a resume I can forward it on.


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Reply #8 - Apr 23rd, 2009 at 11:03pm
 
Yeah you'll get a job there Oceanz. Just tell 'em you can suck-start their earth moving equipment and you're in.

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Reply #9 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 12:51am
 
That is a pretty tacky thing to say Ammad, even if it is meant in jest, and it is the type of comment likely to be heard amongst lonely, disgruntled, single, males, sitting in a bar, wondering why women don't seem to like them.
So I hope you have not offended her.
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Reply #10 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 12:52am
 
Amadd wrote on Apr 23rd, 2009 at 11:03pm:
Yeah you'll get a job there Oceanz. Just tell 'em you can suck-start their earth moving equipment and you're in.




Dont you have a nice deep dark shark infested reef to be exploring mudflap...?
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Reply #11 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 12:55am
 
Its ok mozz..he is blowing a bit of smoke, but Im not adverse to a bit of smoked trogoldyte myself.. Wink
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Reply #12 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 1:09am
 
oceanz wrote on Apr 24th, 2009 at 12:55am:
Its ok mozz..he is blowing a bit of smoke... but Im not adverse to a bit of smoked trogoldyte myself.. Smiley


lol, Grin Grin, well good on you for keeping you r good sense of humour oceans, ammad is generally pretty decent, let's give him the benefit of the doubt on just using a poor taste joke, like we all have done in our time.

I reckon you should jump at merou's offer to pass on your resume, as a word from someone on the ground, never goes astray, and it was nice of him to offer.

I have had mates working  those sorts of jobs, whose most striking stories were of just how much grog they consumed, and how much it cost them, but if they didn't piss it all up, they made damn good money.
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Reply #13 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 1:15am
 
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That is a pretty tacky thing to say Ammad, even if it is meant in jest, and it is the type of comment likely to be heard amongst lonely, disgruntled, single, males, sitting in a blah de blah wondering why women don't seem to blah de blah blah..
So I hope you blah de blah blah blah.


You know what you should be Mozz? ....not a moderator.

Seeing that Oceanz is the hardest to upset here (exluding myself of course), I doubt very much that she took it to heart.  Cheesy



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Reply #14 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 1:23am
 
Hey Ammad, any more talk like that and your punishment will be that I will ask you to read all of Aussie's posts.  Grin Grin Grin
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