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Apr 27th, 2009 at 12:03am
 
Out of honest curiosity Soren, are you a Heeb?
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Reply #1 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 6:36pm
 
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 12:03am:
Out of honest curiosity Soren, are you a Heeb?



Are you using this this definition or something looser/tighter? Please clarify.

ARTICLE 5 

(1)  A Jew is an individual who is descended from at least three grandparents who were, racially, full Jews.

(2)  A Jew is also an individual who is descended from two full-Jewish grandparents if: 
  (a)  he was a member of the Jewish religious community when this law was issued, or joined the community later;
  (b)  when the law was issued, he was married to a person who was a Jew, or was subsequently married to a Jew;
  (c)  he is the issue from a marriage with a Jew, in the sense of Section I, which was contracted after the coming into effect of the Law for the Protection of German Blood and Honor of September 15, 1935;
  (d)  he is the issue of an extramarital relationship with a Jew, in the sense of Section I, and was born out of wedlock after July 31, 1936.

http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/nurmlaw2.html
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Reply #2 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 8:06pm
 
Soren wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 6:36pm:
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 12:03am:
Out of honest curiosity Soren, are you a Heeb?



Are you using this this definition or something looser/tighter? Please clarify.

ARTICLE 5  

(1)  A Jew is an individual who is descended from at least three grandparents who were, racially, full Jews.

(2)  A Jew is also an individual who is descended from two full-Jewish grandparents if:  
 (a)  he was a member of the Jewish religious community when this law was issued, or joined the community later;
 (b)  when the law was issued, he was married to a person who was a Jew, or was subsequently married to a Jew;
 (c)  he is the issue from a marriage with a Jew, in the sense of Section I, which was contracted after the coming into effect of the Law for the Protection of German Blood and Honor of September 15, 1935;
 (d)  he is the issue of an extramarital relationship with a Jew, in the sense of Section I, and was born out of wedlock after July 31, 1936.

http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/nurmlaw2.html


Very funny D!ckhead.  Its a simple question, are you or are you not?
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Reply #3 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:11pm
 
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 8:06pm:
Very funny D!ckhead.  


Tone it down.
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Reply #4 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:39pm
 
Soren wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:11pm:
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 8:06pm:
Very funny D!ckhead.  


Tone it down.


Well just answer the question without throwing BS in to it.
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Reply #5 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 10:19pm
 
I think he means "yes" but not a fully fledged Jew.
Although for all intents and purposes, you know, enslavement of the free world and things like that, he aquires the rights of a Jew.
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Reply #6 - Apr 30th, 2009 at 10:43pm
 
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 12:03am:
Out of honest curiosity Soren, are you a Heeb?


We both know it is not "honest curiosity".

I am not a jew but I am on the jews' side, not their enemies' side.


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Reply #7 - Apr 30th, 2009 at 10:44pm
 
Amadd wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 10:19pm:
I think he means "yes" but not a fully fledged Jew.
Although for all intents and purposes, you know, enslavement of the free world and things like that, he aquires the rights of a Jew.


So you'd better watch it, we know your bank account numbers.
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Reply #8 - May 1st, 2009 at 9:43am
 
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:39pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:11pm:
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 8:06pm:
Very funny D!ckhead.  


Tone it down.


Well just answer the question without throwing BS in to it.

Trouble in paradise you two? Cheesy
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Reply #9 - May 1st, 2009 at 9:36pm
 
It does not mean that a person have to be a jew just because he/she posts intelligent and interesting posts as soren does.

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Reply #10 - May 1st, 2009 at 9:45pm
 
Jim Profit wrote on May 1st, 2009 at 9:43am:
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:39pm:
Soren wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 9:11pm:
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 8:06pm:
Very funny D!ckhead.  


Tone it down.


Well just answer the question without throwing BS in to it.

Trouble in paradise you two? Cheesy



No trouble, pal. You go back to sucking on whatever it is that you are sucking on. There's a good boy.


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Reply #11 - May 1st, 2009 at 10:05pm
 
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 12:03am:
Out of honest curiosity Soren, are you a Heeb?

"Already before the 20th century Jewish history was recognised as unique: by Pascal, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Tolstoy. Little could they have known that some of the most dramatic of all chapters of Jewish history were yet to be written: the Shoah, the attempt once and for all to silence the Jewish voice and eliminate the Jewish presence. Rachmanah litzlan, from the face of the earth.

Yom Hazikaron, when we remember those who fell in Israel's defence as they discovered that the Jewish people still has to fight for the right to be, to exist, to have one place on earth where we can defend ourselves.

Yet out of the very depths of those very tragedies came two of the greatest moments in 2000 years of history, Yom Ha'atzmaut - the restoration of Jewish sovereignty after 1900 years, and Yom Yerushalayim, the return to the ancient and holy city, Jerusalem, home of the Jewish heart, focus of all our prayers, embodiment of all our hopes.

Yet Israel is again under attack, after four years of a savage, ceaseless, brutal terror.

At the very moment that terror is being contained, Israel is facing a new attack - a systematic campaign of delegitimization and demonisation among the media, non-governmental organisations, university teachers, and perhaps even among the churches - as if the cause of peace, or justice, or reconciliation, or coexistence were served by listening to only one voice in the conversation, only one side, the other side, in the conflict.
No one summed up the irony of our present situation better than the Israeli writer Amos Oz. "in the 1930s our enemies said: Jews to Palestine. Now they say: Jews out of Palestine. They don't want us to be here. They don't want us to be there. They don't want us to be."

Why?
Why, after 57 years and more of seeking peace, is Israel still seen as the aggressor?
Why, after ten years of negotiation, in which the Palestinians were offered their own state in all of Gaza, 97% of the West Bank, with a capital in East Jerusalem, is Israel still seen as the sole obstacle to peace?

Why, in a world in which there are 57 Islamic states and something like 100 Christian ones, is the desire of the Jewish people to have just one state of its own seen as - God forbid - racist or exclusionary?

Why, when Israel occupies a quarter of one percent of the land mass of the Arab world, is it deemed to be Goliath against David?
Why, alone among the almost 200 nations that comprise the United Nations, is Israel the only one whose very right to be is still called into question?


Why is the Israel- Palestinian conflict seen by one European public after another as the greatest threat to world peace, when anyone with the most rudimentary understanding of the contemporary world knows full well that were - God forbid a million times -Israel to cease to be, not one of those problems of the world would be changed by a millimetre.

There would still be conflict in Kashmir, Chechnya, Bosnia, Kosovo, Indonesia, the Philippines, China, Sudan, Algeria, and Zimbabwe. There would still be global warming, poverty, illiteracy, disease. Most people of the world would still be deprived of the most basic freedoms and human rights. All that would have happened is that the bravest experiment of modern times - the introduction of freedom and democracy into a corner of the Middle East - would have failed, and with it the hopes of many peoples, not just our own.

Why is Israel blamed for almost every problem affecting the 21st century? Why is Israel held up as the explanation for the underachievement, inequality, and lack of human rights in other countries? This afternoon I attended the service of remembrance for the victims of the Tsunami. with its devastating loss of life throughout the Indian Ocean. The Tsunami. A tidal wave. I thought, here was a disaster for which Israel could not be blamed. I was wrong. Within days a religious teacher, in another part of the world, let it be known that the Tsunami was caused by Israel's programme of nuclear testing. When it comes to hate, the capacity for self-delusion knows no bounds.

Why, when the whole history of the 20th century tells us what happens when hate is unchecked, when lies are told in the media as truth - as they were in the case of Jenin -when universities discriminate against this or that one, we know what happens at the end of that path that begins that way. Why do these things still happen?

Do we still - after 60 years of Holocaust education, 60 years of anti-racist legislation, 60 years of inter-faith activity - have to defend the right of the Jewish people to be?

All too often, in defence of Israel against defamation, we, the Jewish people have had to stand alone. No people should be left to face hate alone. As Martin Luther King said, "In the end we will remember, not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends."



I am not a silent friend of the jews. Honestly. So be curious no more, Ausse Natonal Socialist, you can let loose your invective without pretence.







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Reply #12 - May 1st, 2009 at 10:10pm
 

excellent posting soren.

yes, it seems jews are blamed for about everything.
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Reply #13 - May 1st, 2009 at 10:23pm
 
Soren wrote on May 1st, 2009 at 10:05pm:
DILLIGAF wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 12:03am:
Out of honest curiosity Soren, are you a Heeb?

[color=#0000ff]"Already before the 20th century Jewish history was recognised as unique: by Pascal, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Tolstoy.
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As well as by great British scientist Isaac Newton
http://www.isaac-newton.org/snobelen.pdf

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Reply #14 - May 1st, 2009 at 10:39pm
 
You shall be called Israel, for you have wrestled with God and with men.

Consider the five overriding problems that will face all humanity in the 21st century:

First, the environment: Israel was the first country in the modern world to plant trees, not cut them down, to reforest not deforest. Long before ecology had entered the moral imagination, the Jewish people were turning a land that for centuries lay desolate into a fertile landscape of farms and forests and fields.

Problem Two: Asylum seekers: Israel is the only country other than the United States built out of asylum seekers. They came from 103 different countries, speaking 82 different languages, and out of that global mixture of refugees a great nation was born.

Terror: Israel's security fence, so often described as a wall, is the only effective non-violent protection against terror yet devised in this age of global terror.

Fourth, economic divisions: according to Harvard University's Professor of Economic History, David Landes, only one country in the world has moved in 50 years from being a third world economy to a first world economy: and that is Israel.

And fifthly and lastly, democratic freedom: Not only is Israel the only genuine democracy in the Middle East, but it has sustained its democratic freedoms under strains and stresses that would have broken the back of weaker cultures.


If there were justice in the world, Israel, a tiny country of indomitable courage, would be seen as the role model among the nations, not the pariah among the nations.


The struggle continues and is part of what it means to be a Jew.

Yet today, this evening is a religious moment, and of all the words in the religious vocabulary of Am Yisrael and Torat Yisrael the key one is the word emunah.

Emunah it is normally translated as faith, but it does not mean faith. What it means is faithfulness, loyalty, not walking away when times are tough. It means being steadfast in our loyalty to our people and our land, the home of all our hopes, the place where long ago the Jewish people was born on, and where, within living memory, it has been reborn.

Ve-erastich li be-emunah. We are betrothed to Israel in unbreakable, unshakable loyalty. Nothing will stand between Israel and our love.
Not for nothing were our people and land called Israel. Throughout more than a hundred generations of our history, we have known that to be a Jew involves struggle - sometimes with our fellow human beings, sometimes with God, sometimes with both. Yet in that very name, the name the State has borne for fifty seven years, a momentous hope, a promise, was born - that though the people Israel must struggle, Vetuchal, it will always prevail. That, for the State of Israel, on this its 57th birthday, is our faith and our prayer. Israel is our hope, our people's freedom and our pride.
And so it will be forever. Amen.



Amen indeed.

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