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Rex Hunt on the rampage (Read 5959 times)
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Re: Rex Hunt on the rampage
Reply #45 - Jun 11th, 2009 at 2:31pm
 

Both types of transport are quite incompatible even with older cars that take much longer to reach allowed speed limit.

Best solution would be to make independent bicycle road network, but as we all know there isn’t enough money even to fund current activities, so we will have to put up with this set-up.

As pushbike rider I always think of myself as one that should be mindful of motorised road users and I wish more riders would behave the same way instead of executing their State given rights.
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Reply #46 - Jun 14th, 2009 at 9:36am
 
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Both types of transport are quite incompatible even with older cars that take much longer to reach allowed speed limit.


Can you explain this please?

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making it impossible to go any faster than the 5-10 kmh cyclists travel at


I think your imagination is getting the better of you.

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secondly - for the same reason motorcyclists and any other road user has legally employ them on their vehicles


But those reasons do not apply to a bicycle. Cyclists are not required to wear the same standard of helmet as a motorcyclist, so they do not have the same vision problems and the same difficulty turning their head to check the traffic behind them. Furthermore cyclists do not travel at 110km/h. Nor does the structure of a bike handlebar support the sort of mirrors used on motorcycles. A mirror would be an inferior option to actually looking around.

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to make sure they can observe traffic behind them and to the side of them. it would also function as a reminder to cyclists that they are not the only road user.


Do you really think cyclists are unaware of other road users?

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for the same reason cyclists aren't allowed on freeways, cyclists shouldn't be allowed on any road rated at 60 kmh during peak hour periods. they only cause further congestion in my and many others opinion.....

the only reason one might proffer as a reason to allow cyclists on 60kmh roads is too reduce traffic flow - hoqwever i contend that the increased congestion they cause due to the speed they travel at excacerbates the situation by increasing the time spent on roads by the remaining roadusers from the increased congestion they cause by using up traffic lanes and slowing down the traffic.....


Cyclists reduce congestion. I use a bike path beside a major road on ym way to work. I am almost always travelling faster than the cars at rush hour. Furthermore, it is the bottlenecks that dictate the congestion, and cyclists reduce the load on the bottlenecks, like with the example you gave earlier. Finally, if you ban cyclists, they will just end up in a car instead, which definitely will make congestion worse. Cyclists are highly visible and slow you down when you would be at your fastest, but getting to the queue at the next traffic light a few seconds earlier won't make any difference if you just have to wait longer.

Bottom line is, we all need to be more patient and careful with other road users. We need to reject the mentality that one group of yusers owns the road and other should be kicked off it for their benefit. Both cyclists and motorists would prefer dedicated bike lanes, but until that happens, we need to apply a bit of common sense.
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