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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Indians want special treatment Reply #15 - Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 11:19pm Put up or shut up Helian.
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Reply #16 - Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 11:35pm

Amadd wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 11:19pm:

Put up or shut up Helian.

That scene in Mississippi Burning. How does that song go?

Something like…

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Now listen, you communists and n!ggers and Jews
Tell all your buddies to spread the news
Your Day of Judgment will soon be nigh
As the Lord in his wisdom looks down from on high
Will his battle be lost by mixin' the races?
We want beautiful babies, not ones with brown faces.

Never, never, never, I say
For the Ku Klux Klan is here to stay
Never, never, never, I say
Cos the Ku Klux Klan is here to stay.

I bet you could see yourself as a grand wizard.

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Reply #17 - Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 11:43pm

I was after some opinion Helian, not arrogance.
I really couldn't care less what colour their skin is, the action is what I'm commenting on.

That's where the racist card is always drawn.
Well, how about I complain about racism against fair skinned people?
How about I go to the CBD and burn an effigy of an Indian?
Would that be OK?

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Happy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 559	Re: Indians want special treatment Reply #18 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 10:34am NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 11:06pm: ... See, Happy... Soon they might be gunning for you. I am happy that you are safe.
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Reply #19 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 11:21am

Happy wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 10:34am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 11:06pm:

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See, Happy... Soon they might be gunning for you.

I am happy that you are safe.

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INDIAN STUDENT ATTACKED IN CAR PARK
Wednesday, June 3, 2009

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/820973/indians-lose-faith-in-vic-police-force

An Indian student has suffered minor injuries in an attempted armed robbery in Melbourne's southeast.
The attack comes as Indian students say they have lost confidence in police to investigate a spate of crimes they say is racially targeted at them.
Police say they have appealed for witnesses to the latest attack, in the car park at Chisholm Institute of TAFE in Dandenong about 1.30pm (AEST) on Tuesday.

The 21-year-old student was confronted by up to five men in the car park, police said.
One demanded a cigarette and money from the man, who refused to hand over anything.
The group set upon the man, with one slashing him across the chest.

He suffered a minor laceration and made his own way to a police station to report the crime.
Victoria Police spokeswoman Karla Dennis said the attack was not thought to be racially motivated.Tensions over attacks on Indian people prompted a protest in central Melbourne on Sunday and the gridlocking of a major city intersection throughout the night by up to 400 demonstrators.
The demonstration was broken up about 5am (AEST) by police, who have since been accused of being too heavy-handed with protesters.

The issue of racially motivated attacks has raised headlines in India, with New Delhi warning violence against its students in Australia could jeopardise the numbers of Indians coming to Australia to study, earning the country $2 billion a year.
Police believe that while some of the attacks may be racially-motivated, it is more likely part of a broader issue of escalating street violence.

Maybe not, but chances are that police are wrong.

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Reply #20 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 11:56am

Happy wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 11:21am:

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INDIAN STUDENT ATTACKED IN CAR PARK
Wednesday, June 3, 2009

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/820973/indians-lose-faith-in-vic-police-force

An Indian student has suffered minor injuries in an attempted armed robbery in Melbourne's southeast.
The attack comes as Indian students say they have lost confidence in police to investigate a spate of crimes they say is racially targeted at them.
Police say they have appealed for witnesses to the latest attack, in the car park at Chisholm Institute of TAFE in Dandenong about 1.30pm (AEST) on Tuesday.

The 21-year-old student was confronted by up to five men in the car park, police said.
One demanded a cigarette and money from the man, who refused to hand over anything.
The group set upon the man, with one slashing him across the chest.

He suffered a minor laceration and made his own way to a police station to report the crime.
Victoria Police spokeswoman Karla Dennis said the attack was not thought to be racially motivated.Tensions over attacks on Indian people prompted a protest in central Melbourne on Sunday and the gridlocking of a major city intersection throughout the night by up to 400 demonstrators.
The demonstration was broken up about 5am (AEST) by police, who have since been accused of being too heavy-handed with protesters.

The issue of racially motivated attacks has raised headlines in India, with New Delhi warning violence against its students in Australia could jeopardise the numbers of Indians coming to Australia to study, earning the country $2 billion a year.
Police believe that while some of the attacks may be racially-motivated, it is more likely part of a broader issue of escalating street violence.

Maybe not, but chances are that police are wrong.

It's somewhat ironic that Sikhs would be considered as soft targets for crime, given that Sikhs are from an Indian warrior caste, who value courage and strength as the greatest of virtues.

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Reply #21 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 12:04pm

Police believe that while some of the attacks may be racially-motivated, it is more likely part of a broader issue of escalating street violence.

I have Sikh mates here and in Melbourne (they have beards and wear the headress), and have found them to be much easier to get on with than some other Indians who obviously think their caste system is alive and well here and includes non-Indians as well.

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Reply #22 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 2:18pm

Amadd wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2009 at 2:48pm:

Indians stopped traffic in the busiest intersection of Melbourne's CBD last weekend demanding special protection over and above that which is afforded to average Australians.
By Monday morning, police had to physically remove these pests so that Melbourne's CBD could function.
Isn't it enough that average Australians are forced to put up with them taking university places which should be given to Australian citizens?

You know where the dirty scummy street is brownboy - go there.

Clashes at Melbourne racism protest

Police in the Australian city of Melbourne have arrested at least 18 people following clashes with protesters demonstrating against a spate of attacks on Indian students.

The clashes early on Monday morning came as police moved to clear protesters from blocking key intersections, bringing parts of the city to a standstill.

Protesters later rallied at key intersections and staged a sit-in protest in front of the main railway station, blocking traffic in one of the city's busiest streets for almost 20 hours.

The Federation of Indian Students of Australia, which organised the rally, said the attacks on Indian students were racially motivated.

In a statement on its website it said it was calling for a peaceful protest to raise awareness, and promote racial harmony and peace.

The student body also wants the Indian government to declare Australia an unsafe destination for Indian students if the attacks continue.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2009/06/2009613428513474.html

Here's hoping there will be more attacks....many more!

Ah Ammad you are really unrealistic man. Availability of University place should be determined by candidate’s intelligence not by the race.
Also you are very hash on Indians considering that they have many similarities with you. For example they like cricket so much, they have caste system and love noisy music and they are also considered as perfect Anglo slaves. You should be rather focused on common and good thinks than on differences.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Indians want special treatment Reply #23 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 6:50pm Determination of a place in an Australian University should be all Australians first
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Happy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 559	Re: Indians want special treatment Reply #24 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 6:55pm Grendel wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 6:50pm: Determination of a place in an Australian University should be all Australians first Appears that Universities reluctantly pick up overseas candidates because they are paying higher fee.
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Reply #25 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 8:18pm

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Ah Ammad you are really unrealistic man. Availability of University place should be determined by candidate’s intelligence not by the race...

I'm not talking about race Athos, I'm talking about citizens from a different nation.

The education business is huge. Too many foreigners competing for our universities drives up the fees for ordinary Australians.
I'm sure that every mum and dad who has paid their taxes to this country would like to think that their kids can get a good education here.

As well, those Indians had no right to stage a protest in the way that they did - any non-citizens who were involved in that should be deported immediately.

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Reply #26 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 9:06pm

Happy wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 6:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 6:50pm:

Determination of a place in an Australian University should be all Australians first

Appears that Universities reluctantly pick up overseas candidates because they are paying higher fee.

Actually, the Commonwealth funds only a specific number of places each year and in each broad study area for local students. Universities then compete for the brightest Autralian students who are interested in that study area. SO for veterinary places the Commonwealth funds, say, 100 places but there are 500 Australian students applying. The cut off will be detremined by the top 100 entry scores. f there are two unis offeriong vet courses and one has 20 places but half the applicants, its cut off score will be higher than the uni with 75 places and the other half of all applicants.
On top of Commonwealth funded places, universities can have full fee paying places up to a certain number, both local and internatonal.

So international students do not displace any locals, neither fee paying, nor commonwealth supported, as far as funding by thee government is concerned.
It is another but related matter that the level of Commonwealth funding for each local student is too low. This is why unis are forever lookng for extra money. The higher educaton funding formula also requires that international students pay more then what the Commonwealth funds for the same course for local sstudents.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6400 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Indians want special treatment Reply #27 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 9:21pm As well, those Indians had no right to stage a protest in the way that they did - any non-citizens who were involved in that should be deported immediately. [/quote] Well probably they have, don’t forget they are member of the modified British colonial empire called Commonwealth.
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Reply #28 - Jun 3^rd, 2009 at 10:20pm

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Too many foreigners competing for our universities drives up the fees for ordinary Australians.

You could not be more wrong on this point Ammad, the exact opposite is true.
The high fees being paid by foreign students support the universities, allowing them to have much lower fees for aussie students.

My wife is a university teacher.

I must also admit to be disappointed to see you support Grendels idiotic statement of , "if they don't like it go home", as if they should be expected to like being racially vilified, and subjected to physical assaults and robberies.

The problem is not that the Indian students are causing trouble, it is the racists who are causing trouble, and unfortunately for us, they are home, which shows what an offensively stupid statement Grendel made, and you supported.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Indians want special treatment Reply #29 - Jun 4^th, 2009 at 12:03am If they don't like it here... they can go home. Logical and rational.
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