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Reply #45 - Jun 4^th, 2009 at 3:15pm

Were those stabbings involving aborigines Happy? If so, it's called "indigenous unrest".
If an Indian or other asian gets stabbed it's called a "racial attack", if a white person gets stabbed, it's merely called a crime.

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Can you name one attacker, their racial identity, and their motive for the attack?

Just one.

I was wondering about this too. I suppose that part is just left to the imagination.
And I suppose some nations imagine us to be a people that runs around with Crocodile Dundee knives dodging kangaroos and slashing foreigners.

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Reply #46 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 1:00pm

One thing that amazes me is the level of hypocrisy that Indian students display in Australia.
As we know India is the most racist country in the world with the official racism that has existed for centuries among its own populus. The name of that for official racism is the Caste system in India that produces incredible humiliation and exploitation of the people. Due to their higher economical status, the members of upper caste, for example, can afford to have several slaves from lower caste and to send their children to study to Australia.
Now my question is: How those who commit the biggest racism in the world have moral right to complain about someone else prejudice behaviour?

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Reply #47 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 1:16pm

India might be a racist country - but we are supposed to set a better example for some reason. If we invite people to this country - they deserve to feel safe.

This incident has brought to our attention the fudging of crime statistics in Victoria, in a similar way to the recent findings of cover-ups in NSW of racist attacks that have just been ignored, but no doubt it's still ongoing.

Racist attacks have been under-represented & hidden from the public for many years so the States can boast about the great job they're doing in crime prevention.

It's not just white against black - it's ethnics against ethnics, obviously showing that multiculturalism is a hidden, simmering brew ready to explode at any time.

The Indians did the right thing by bringing this out into the open.

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Reply #48 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 2:14pm

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Racist attacks have been under-represented & hidden from the public for many years so the States can boast about the great job they're doing in crime prevention.

No it's all attacks. Police are thoroughly disinterested in all assaults other than sexual assaults if you are a woman, or assaults on police. Anyone else, and they couldn't care less. There are very very few truly racist attacks, other than Muslims attacking the 'kuffar'. Robbery perps will say whatever they need to, to get power over their victim - white c_nt, black c_nt, whatever - they don't care.

But KKK style beatings really are not part of Australian life, not even marginally - it just makes for a good headline.

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Reply #50 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 5:36pm

mantra wrote on Jun 5^th, 2009 at 1:16pm:

India might be a racist country - but we are supposed to set a better example for some reason. If we invite people to this country - they deserve to feel safe.

This incident has brought to our attention the fudging of crime statistics in Victoria, in a similar way to the recent findings of cover-ups in NSW of racist attacks that have just been ignored, but no doubt it's still ongoing.

Racist attacks have been under-represented & hidden from the public for many years so the States can boast about the great job they're doing in crime prevention.

It's not just white against black - it's ethnics against ethnics, obviously showing that multiculturalism is a hidden, simmering brew ready to explode at any time.

The Indians did the right thing by bringing this out into the open.

Mantra I have to say you are right.

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Reply #51 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 5:43pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 5^th, 2009 at 2:53pm:

They are just carrying on over there like that Indian Idiot who used to be on Cracker,

Are you talking about Sanjay (was that his name)? He was one of the most polite members there and very brave when facing the onslaught from you, DT and Sprintcyclist.

It's a pity he didn't find his way over here, but Indians, as well as anyone else who believes they are being persecuted or vilified has the right to demand something be done about it. If it means ruffling a few feathers - too bad. Most of us haven't got the guts to take a stand against the government or its services.

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Reply #53 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 9:25pm

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We are probably not the least racist country in the world, but we surely would be better than very many, and we are improving.

Do you have any evidence in support of those three propositions?

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The thing about this particular brand of racism, is that it is not sytemic, but rather random attacks by individual dickheads, who have xenophobic tendencies, because of their ignorance, and social situation, which makes the Indian's protests pretty meaningless, as far as achieving any positive outcomes, and downright inflammatory in drawing more attention onto them from the idiot racists we do suffer.

Who are the attackers? What ethnicity?

(Might have been asked before, but arsed if I am going to read it all.)

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Reply #54 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 9:41pm

mantra wrote on Jun 5^th, 2009 at 1:16pm:

India might be a racist country - but we are supposed to set a better example for some reason.

On account of our superority - don't beat about the bush.

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If we invite people to this country - they deserve to feel safe.

They are not invited, they are allowed in, on application.

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This incident has brought to our attention the fudging of crime statistics in Victoria, in a similar way to the recent findings of cover-ups in NSW of racist attacks that have just been ignored, but no doubt it's still ongoing.

Racist attacks have been under-represented & hidden from the public for many years so the States can boast about the great job they're doing in crime prevention.

It's not just white against black - it's ethnics against ethnics, obviously showing that multiculturalism is a hidden, simmering brew ready to explode at any time.

There is a whole bag of paradoxes highlighted by what you say:

- Western civilisation is superior - more is expected from it than from some 'developing' people (wogs and efnics)
- western civilisation is guilty of lookng down on other, lesser people, so wogs and efnics are victims of whtey's racism
- Whitey has a large lumpen underclass of layabouts and no-hopers who have nothing to do but slash passers-by for a fag and a few dollars and a laugh
- If these lumpen losers attach other whiteys, they are social victims of capitalism/Howard/oppression/what-have-you
- If they attack tinted people, they are racist rednecks
- Tinted people, wogs and efnics of some origins are responsible for an unproportonately large number of violent acts and they just do not fit in with western civilsation - except with its lumpen, no-hoper underclass
- So wogs and efnics have a large lumpen underclass of layabouts and no-hopers who may or may not be even more violent than whitey bludgers
- but because they are wogs and efnic (looked down on) we must pretend that it is whitey's fault if and when the inferior races are behaving badly, on account of their supposed 'exclusion'
- All the efnics and wogs from the oppressed post-colonial world are dying to come to cuddle up to and be accepted by what is really a racist, exclusionist, superior Australia (whose guilt has made it introduce nondiscriminatory immigraton policy) but they feel unwelcome by the redneck whitey, I mean, social victim underlass.

And it's all the fault of that nerdy white accountant with wife, kids and mortgage. Everybody else's responsibilites are cancelled out by some victimhood claim.

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Reply #55 - Jun 5^th, 2009 at 10:53pm

The simple truth is that some criminals are targeting some ethnic groups, because these criminals have identified them as soft targets.

Now the over riding motivation is theft, and we can pretty safely assume that many of these attacks will be by drug addicts who just want money.

Now as far as the racist element comes to bear in associating with these attacks, it is up for interpretation, and while some attacks have been just outright racist assaults, motivated by racial hatred, the majority are thefts, motivated by the desire for easy money, and unfortunately Indian students have been identified by these criminals as a good target, because they usually have money on them, and they are seen as being unlikely to offer much resistance.

It is hard to know what the answer is, except for the obvious step of changing how we treat drugs and drug addicts in our society, because we all know that the majority of small scale property crimes are committed by addicts who need money for drugs, and we could pretty much stop that immediately, by supplying addicts with free drugs, and better rehabilitation treatment programs.

Unfortunately we know also, that no government will ever have the guts to take such a sensible step, so we must then consider how best to support our police, in reducing these robberies, which are not restricted to just Indians, but is more police the answer?
We hear a bit about Zero Tolerance being effective in New York, and perhaps we could try something like that here.

As far as the scumbag racists go, well they are just the same moronic minority that many societies are plagued with, and we just have to keep sending out the message to the, that they are scum, and racism is dumb, and only idiots are racist.

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Reply #56 - Jun 6^th, 2009 at 8:17am

Soren wrote on Jun 5^th, 2009 at 9:41pm:

- Western civilisation is superior - more is expected from it than from some 'developing' people (wogs and efnics)
- western civilisation is guilty of lookng down on other, lesser people, so wogs and efnics are victims of whtey's racism
- Whitey has a large lumpen underclass of layabouts and no-hopers who have nothing to do but slash passers-by for a fag and a few dollars and a laugh
- If these lumpen losers attach other whiteys, they are social victims of capitalism/Howard/oppression/what-have-you
- If they attack tinted people, they are racist rednecks
- Tinted people, wogs and efnics of some origins are responsible for an unproportonately large number of violent acts and they just do not fit in with western civilsation - except with its lumpen, no-hoper underclass
- So wogs and efnics have a large lumpen underclass of layabouts and no-hopers who may or may not be even more violent than whitey bludgers
- but because they are wogs and efnic (looked down on) we must pretend that it is whitey's fault if and when the inferior races are behaving badly, on account of their supposed 'exclusion'
- All the efnics and wogs from the oppressed post-colonial world are dying to come to cuddle up to and be accepted by what is really a racist, exclusionist, superior Australia (whose guilt has made it introduce nondiscriminatory immigraton policy) but they feel unwelcome by the redneck whitey, I mean, social victim underlass.

And it's all the fault of that nerdy white accountant with wife, kids and mortgage. Everybody else's responsibilites are cancelled out by some victimhood claim.

Very succinctly put Soren, although I wouldn't have used your terminology. Roll Eyes

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Ah no...

BTW Sanjay might have been polite to you... but...

That's right - he was very rude to you Grendel, but of course you wouldn't have given him any reason to be ....

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Indians want special treatment Reply #57 - Jun 6^th, 2009 at 8:44am Ah mantra... I give as good as I get... he started it and he slandered quite a few people and lied about a few others. CONTINUOUSLY. i CANT REMEMBER THE OTHER iNDIAN GUY BUT HE HAD A BIG FAT HEAD AND WAS TRYING TO CRACK ONTO oGLY ALL THE TIME. He was also rabidly anti-Howard and a wanker.
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Reply #58 - Jun 6^th, 2009 at 9:04am

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Ah mantra... I give as good as I get... he started it and he slandered quite a few people and lied about a few others. CONTINUOUSLY

I don't think he liked your multicultural stance.

I can't remember his name either - but you always called him some rude nick - poo or boo or something. Yes he did have a thing for Oceans - lucky her. Cheesy

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Indians want special treatment Reply #59 - Jun 6^th, 2009 at 9:38am Poo boy maybe... ? hmmm what was his name? Now he was an idiot. Hmmm... poo boo is starting to sound very familiar.
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