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Jul 3rd, 2009 at 4:40pm
 
More Lebanese Muslims raping.. oops, is that a Christian Anglo, son of a priest? My mistake, sorry..

Of course this is not a reflection on Christian Anglo Australians is it? Just a co-incidence, after all, it's only related to religion, and all members of the perpetrators religion are only to be blamed when it's Muslims, I forgot.



Baptist minister's son jailed for rapes


THE son of a high profile Baptist minister has been jailed for more than 15 years for a series of aggravated rapes he committed in the 1980s.

Phillip Alexander Kenworthy, 44, broke into the homes of three women in the Melbourne suburb of Surrey Hills between 1982 and 1985 and raped them at knifepoint. His crimes remained unsolved until 2007 when fingerprints he left on a lamp and fuse box were matched with his prints.

Kenworthy, whose father the Reverend Dr Alex Kenworthy presented a show on Melbourne radio station 3AW until his death in 1994, pleaded guilty to 14 charges including aggravated rape and aggravated burglary.

Victoria County Court Judge Geoffrey Chettle described the offences as a serious example of the crimes.

"You systematically preyed upon women who lived near your home," he said.

Judge Chettle jailed Kenworthy for 15 years and six months. He must serve 12 years before being eligible for parole.

Source: Herald-Sun
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Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2009 at 4:52pm
 
Wow, you found another criminal. Congratulations!

Should have been given 15 years for each rape.
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2009 at 5:25pm
 
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Wow, you found another criminal. Congratulations


Your mock wonderment highlights your ignorance on how hypocritical it is to blame the entire Muslim community (something which we see a lot) based on the actions of criminals who happen to be from that community.

If you don't have the basic intellect to at least perceive this, then your comment does nothing but ridicule your ownself.
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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2009 at 5:37pm
 
yeah imagine a gang rapist like that calling them aussie sluts and all.
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Reply #4 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 9:54am
 
Abu what makes you think it is religiously motivated?
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Reply #5 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 9:59am
 
Assuming I actually honestly believe they were religiously-motivated... the same kind of ignorance and bigotry that leads others to believe Islam is connected to rapes committed by Lebanese I guess.

Come on, we both know that if the son of a prominent Islamic leader were involved in rapes... the accusations against Islam would be all over the place, stop playing dumb, it doesn't do you justice fd.
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Reply #6 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 10:12am
 
I think it's more to do with the 'cat meat' comments from the actual religious leaders themselves Abu (you know, the imaginary leaders that are only real leaders when it is convenient for you), or the claims by muslims that male muslims are unable to control themselves if women don't wear tents.
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Reply #7 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 10:26am
 
Statements after the facts do not alter the motivations of the perpetrators.

Likewise his statements do not condone the actions, he believes in capital punishment for rape, he just thinks it's extremely unfair that Muslims get 50 odd years, whilst others get less than 10 in most cases.
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Reply #8 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 10:37am
 
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Statements after the facts do not alter the motivations of the perpetrators.


True, but they can reveal them.

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he just thinks it's extremely unfair that Muslims get 50 odd years, whilst others get less than 10 in most cases


That sounds like an unreasonable generalisation to me.
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Reply #9 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 12:08pm
 
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True, but they can reveal them.


If those statements are made by the perpetrators, perhaps. Not if made by a completely different individual. Besides, you've missed the point that he never made any statement to condone their actions.

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That sounds like an unreasonable generalisation to me.


Can you name a single case that sets a similar precedent in recent Australian legal history of a rapist getting 50 odd years? Or even anyone getting 50 odd years for any crime? I cannot.

Also I remember at around the same time as the Skaf case, there were two Anglo men who broke into a senior lady's house, they gang raped her, robbed her and killed her, and they didn't get a sentence remotely like the Skafs. Anyone who claims the sentence wasn't biased is living in an alternate dimension, sorry.
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Reply #10 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 12:14pm
 
I can think of a few life in prisons.

Remember this was gang rape and the main offenders only copped 50 years which has been a great deal decreased since  BTW and it wasn't just about 1 rape.

As for religion that dimension only came into it after the Moslem Leader from Auburn stuck his 2 cents in being an apologist for them.
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Reply #11 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 12:27pm
 
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Can you name a single case that sets a similar precedent in recent Australian legal history of a rapist getting 50 odd years?


Abu, I don't exactly keep track of sentences for rapists. If you want to make some kind of argument about it, you do the homework. Saying that you don't know of any cases is hardly a watertight argument.
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Reply #12 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 12:39pm
 
Apples and oranges fd
gang rapists not rapists
serial gang rapists not just the 1 rape
leaders and organisers of the rapes not just a standerby or someone who came along

hard to find people who do that regularly in our society...  yet in several societies/western-nations the habit of gang rape involving moslems has been quite a new edition.  France and Sweden being 2 other main countries where it occurs in France they even have a special name for it.
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Reply #13 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 8:30pm
 
fd,

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Abu, I don't exactly keep track of sentences for rapists.


Just be a man for once and say "No there is no other case, and now I think about it, it does seem quite disproportionate compared to other sentencing we see".

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I can think of a few life in prisons.


And what does 'life' pan out to in Australian justice? 25 years? 20 for good behaviour?

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Remember this was gang rape


Yeh, so much more severe than breaking into an old lady's home, gang raping her, murdering her, then robbing her... Perhaps if they'd done that, then they woulda got less.
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Reply #14 - Jul 4th, 2009 at 8:41pm
 
Life in prison in NSW under truth in sentencing legislation means just tat...  never to be released.

So when are you going to admit you got it wrong.

This isn't about religiously motivated rape.
The Lebo gang rapists weren't seen that way until after Hilali decided to make excuses for the rapists and even then it wasn't religion in the first place it was racist rapes if you want a qualifier for them.
That they aren't sentenced to 50 years in gaol at all...  it was multiple gang rapes and you've just been lying about everything.
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