abu_rashid wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 8:59pm:

So... you are taking back the quip about Pallo children suffering in refugee camps because of evil western/jewish bloodsuckers?

No doubting that they suffer in refugee camps - but they are kept there by their 'bovvers'.

There are over a million Palestinians in Israel, most of them Muslims, none of them refugees.


Yeah, I can see the difference.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 9:30pm:



Again, you've got it in one - 'my home'. Exactly. Israel is jewish. Has always been jewish.

So if the joo kicks out the intruders from his home and they get treated badly by their kin - well, that's is not the joo's bad, it's the intruders' bad and their brovvers' bad.


No skewed logic there, I'm afraid. i

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 10:01pm:



abu, you live in some bizarre past Israel is jewish while Arabia is arabs and muslim at that.

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"Jewish" is not a country either, didn't stop you from stating this:

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Perhaps you should learn how to be at least a little consistent in your arguments, to avoid further embaressment?

The simple fact is that Omar Bin al-Khattab (May God be pleased with him) opened that land (known as Bilad ash-Sham in Arabic) to the ISLAMIC Caliphate, and it remained part of the Islamic Caliphate for 1200 years until the British arrived. You can try and toy with the semantics all you like, these are the historical facts.

Also a historical fact is that the Jews did have two brief kingdoms there, that lasted less time than the Islamic Caliphate, and also they ruled as subordinates to other foreign powers for brief periods of time also. Also historical fact is that they murdered en masse the Phillistines and Canaanites and others who lived there when they arrived there. They are by no means the original inhabitants of the land, just one group who happen to be there at certain point in history. If they (and this story) weren't in your holy book, you wouldn't give them a second look, simple. Anymore than yo'd consider Macedonians the rightful inhabitants of Afghanistan, simply because one of their leaders conquered it and happened to live there for some time.

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Bzzt, wrong! They had a kingdom in Khazaria too.

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Sorry, but they were not there when Muslims arrived, and didn't even make any effort to claim it as their land until after 1200 years after we were there. Also many of the modern day Palestinians show genetic markers which trace them to that land long before the 1200 year arrival of Islam. There are Greek/Romans, Ghassanid Arabs, Hebrews etc. that are all ancestors of modern day Palestinians.

Just a question, if the Japanese rocked up in Australia and claimed "This was our historical homeland, which was mentioned in our Shinto texts, sure we weren't here when you arrived, but we were there about 400 years before that, we're taking our homeland back, you have to move to other Western countries" what would be your response? Consider it honestly, and then you will have understood the situation of the Palestinians. Just to make it a little more authentic, imagine it happened in the year 2988 (ie. 1200 years after 1788). We both know if it happened today, there'd be massive bloodshed, if it happened after we'd spent about another 1000 years settling in here, solidifying our attachment to this land, then I'm sure you can extrapolate...

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 9:14pm:



They booted themselves out of their homes by invading the Jewish state. Arabic radio broadcasts counselled Arabs to flee the invading Arab armies, and they would return later triumphant once they had killed all the ebil Jews. Didn't work out so well.

And after 1948, there still could have been a Palestinian state, but Egypt and Jordan occupied Gaza and the West Bank and squashed any attempt at Palestinian nationalism. So the Arab brothers were the first 'occupiers' after 1948, not the Jews. The Jews occupied the regions after they were again set to be invaded in 1967, and 1973.

The Jews bought land and worked desert into profitable areas. Bandit ridden desert, that the Palestinians didn't want, the Jews through hard work grew crops and built houses there. Now the Palestinians wanted it, and wanted to kill all the Jews. But their declared war of extermination in 1948 only led to many years of sorrow for them.

You reap what you sow.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 9^th, 2009 at 9:56am:



So why don't the Pallos declare themselves a country and make a go of it already? Why keep kvetching and murdering? Because they are just a loose set of gangs, clans and families.


The Kazars, the schmazars, the caliphs and the japanese are all irrelevant. Muslims bellyache about the jews because they can't bear the thought that the living testaments to Islam's falsity are not only getting out of 1400 years of dhimmitude in the region but actually doing much, much better.