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If you knew even the slightest thing about the history of the conflict, you'd know they already did.

Kinda hard to make a go of anything though when you're completely blockaded, most of your drinking water is siphoned off by your enemy and your citizens are expelled from their homes daily. And no, not one single rocket came from the West Bank, where almost ALL evictions in the past 10 years have occured, so don't give us these bodgey arguments about "You launched rockets, so you deserve everything you get".

Anyway, I'm not really going to continue with this. You support the aggressor, the invader, the unwelcome entrant into the region. This will play out much like the Crusades, in that the occupation will last perhaps a century, then it will be removed. Anyone who really believes in peace will call for an earlier end to the occupation, anyone who wants war and suffering will try to prolong it, by supporting the foreign entity there.

We both know an oil rig can only stand in the middle of the ocean whilst it produces something profitable, and therefore it will be maintained.... after that, the tides of the ocean will wash it away, like the ocean of Muslims in the Middle East will wash the Zionist cancer away that infects their body right now. The Zionists simply don't belong there, and you know in the long run it's simply not sustainable. But you have your little Biblical/Apocalyptic fantasies to dream about I guess.

You are an evil person soren, and a supporter of evil people. You support oppression, and the wrongful persistence of all this violence. Just admit the British made a mistake, evacuate the Zionists back to your own countries where they belong (remember you're all part of the Judaeo-Christian civilisation, but we Muslims are not, so please remove the Judaeo part, from our land and take it back into your own) and everyone can return to normal. But we know you don't want that, you want the cycle of violence, you find it entertaining in some sick and twisted way I think.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 10^th, 2009 at 12:21am:




abu,

Yes i see what you mean, a nice metaphor,

".....the ocean of Muslims in the Middle East will wash the Zionist cancer away".

Nothing new here.

Devout moslems always promise a bloodbath will occur, against their enemies.


Iranian President Ahmadinejad agrees with you too, abu...

"The ocean of rage of the people of the region will surge and eradicate the Zionist regime."

YOUTUBE
Farewell Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-IwwfeLp4M

"......you have your little Biblical/Apocalyptic fantasies to dream about I guess."

abu,

But i thought that you believed in God's power to intervene in the affairs of man?

Ah,  .....but my God is a moslem, yeah?
/sarc off


In your dreams abu.







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abu,

Kettle calling pot, black.








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"The ocean of rage of the people of the region will surge and eradicate the Zionist regime."

President Ahmadinejad


Like i said, a nice metaphor.iThose who come against God's people and his land....

Isaiah 17:12
Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13  The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14  And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.


Isaiah 59:19
So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
20  And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.
21  As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.


Jeremiah 46:7
Who is this that cometh up as a flood, whose waters are moved as the rivers?
8  Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his waters are moved like the rivers; and he saith, I will go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy the city and the inhabitants thereof.
9  Come up, ye horses; and rage, ye chariots; and let the mighty men come forth; the Ethiopians and the Libyans, that handle the shield; and the Lydians, that handle and bend the bow.
10  For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.

"....Come up.......For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries:"

There is going to be a bloodbath.




The wicked in this world, are blind.

Nothing can stop God's plan.
....man's own nature is driving it forward.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 10^th, 2009 at 12:23pm:





abu,

That is not my reading of the scripture.....


Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9  And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10  Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.


Luke 4:5
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6  And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7  If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
8  And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.



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The hadith...

"The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any sariya going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah's cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/002   Volume 1, Book 2, Number 35




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My God, knows what is in my heart, and he is my redeemer.


Job 19:25
For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:

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Jews migrated into Palestine with the stated aim of taking it over and "transferring" them out.

Muslims just speak about having halal food available at council meetings or prayer rooms in Uni's and you begin jumping up and down wanting to riot. The Palestinians were FAR FAR FAR too tolerant and naive about the impending threat that was landing on their doorstep.

So if you don't mind Muslims becoming about 30% of Australia's population within a few decades and begin writing books about transferring Aussies out and forming militias to patrol the streets and raid Aussie towns, then I'll start accepting your arguments.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 10^th, 2009 at 10:25pm:



Glad to see you ignored the meat and went for the scraps as usual. No wakey-wakey for you then. 


To recall:

The Pallos don't declare themselves a country because they are not a people. They are a bunch of warring clans, at best. And they don't declare themselves a country because that would mean TAKING SOME FRICKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEMSELVES. And that is the bridge way too far for the pallos. And muslims in general. That would mean actually doing some work.

Lobbing granades and dressing toddlers in suicide vests is a lot easier than organisiing rubbish removal and school maintenance. Better leave that to the aid agencies, eh. Let the infidel aidd money take care of the practicalities of life while the pallo clans and gangsters play at being 'people's liberators'.



Discuss.

soren - agreed. muslims are a thankless intolerant controlling prejudiced violent narroweyed people.

abu - tell us all about the 11 or so wives your sex crazed idol had and his sex slaves on top of that.

Can we Muslims have 10% of Australia?

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 11^th, 2009 at 5:41pm:


You can have 10 per cent of the blast radius. That should be enough.