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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Jihad for Kids, Birds of Paradise Reply #75 - Jul 14^th, 2009 at 9:52pm Quote: Take the Israelis. They declared their country, as voted to them by the UN. and that would have been the end of the matter, no battles. So if the U.N votes 50% of Australia must goto Muslims to create a Muslim state, you'll leave the matter at that? No battles?
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Reply #76 - Jul 14^th, 2009 at 10:27pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 14^th, 2009 at 9:52pm:

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Take the Israelis. They declared their country, as voted to them by the UN. and that would have been the end of the matter, no battles.

So if the U.N votes 50% of Australia must goto Muslims to create a Muslim state, you'll leave the matter at that? No battles?

abu, can you link to UN resolution about voting for Australia to become muslim or is it usual islamic fantasy about caliphate?

BTW, here is link to United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 that was approved by a vote of 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions. And that is reality not a fantasy like islamic history toll tails.

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Reply #77 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 4:55pm

I couldn't care less if the U.N voted 56 to 0 for 50% of my country to be given to someone else, and I don't think a single nation/people on earth would accept it either.

When you, or anyone else here can tell me it'd be acceptable for your country, then I'll listen to your arguments, until then it's nothing but garbage.

You cannot criticise the Palestinians for not doing what you yourself would not do. It's nothing but pure hypocrisy, and in fact just demonstrates how empty your arguments are.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Jihad for Kids, Birds of Paradise Reply #78 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 5:09pm abu, Palestinians never had country it was British Mandate and you know it. I don't think you care about Palestinians either or you would be against them blowing themselves and their children up to bits of meat.
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Reply #79 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 8:00pm

tallow, I know you're not the brightest spark on this forum, but I think you can manage to transpose the situation of the Palestinians onto the situation of Australia, just to give yourself a little better insight into their plight, if indeed you care. If you don't care, then let us just finish it here, and cut the crap.

If Australia were divided up into smaller provinces and you happened to live in one of those provinces that they were offering to give 50% of to the Muslims, just because it didn't exist previously as an independant nation, would that somehow 'cheapen' your claim to your home?, to your land, to your community? The "It was a British mandate at the time" argument is just bollocks and you know it. It doesn't alter people's position whatsoever, nor does it justify displacing them from their homes, nor does it weaken their claims to their land, not even by a nanometre.

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Reply #80 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 8:28pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 15^th, 2009 at 4:55pm:

I couldn't care less if the U.N voted 56 to 0 for 50% of my country to be given to someone else, and I don't think a single nation/people on earth would accept it either.

When you, or anyone else here can tell me it'd be acceptable for your country, then I'll listen to your arguments, until then it's nothing but garbage.

You cannot criticise the Palestinians for not doing what you yourself would not do. It's nothing but pure hypocrisy, and in fact just demonstrates how empty your arguments are.

Listen up.....

'PALESTINIANS' HAVE A HOMELAND.

JORDAN, IS THE 'PALESTINIAN' HOMELAND.
JORDAN, IS THE 'PALESTINIAN' HOMELAND.
JORDAN, IS THE 'PALESTINIAN' HOMELAND.

The Arabs were allotted the land of the BMP, Transjorden, east of the river Jordan.
.....WHERE, [BY AGREEMENT WITH THE ARABS OF THE AREA], JEWS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SETTLE.

Paraphrasing abu, paraphrasing the 'Palestinians', and paraphrasing all other moslems, re the 'inner struggle' over 'Palestine',

"The wicked Jews made me do it [i.e. they made me fight for the 'Palestinians' land]!"

MOSLEM INGRAIN THE HATRED OF THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH, INTO THEIR CHILDREN

And when moslems murder other moslems, or non-moslems,

"The wicked apostates / non-moslems made me do it [i.e. they made me kill them, because they are 'unbelievers' ]!"

Nick Berg, with his arms bound, moments before his beheading by Allah's 'finest', the 'warriors' of ISLAM.

Nick Berg's fatal error/fault?

Nick Berg was an 'unbeliever', he was breathing, and he came into an area controlled by devout moslems, with a grievance against non-moslems.

Listen up.....

ISLAM - IS A DEATH CULT.

"......in the words of Islamism's most influential thinker, Sayyid Qutb,
....."the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood." "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8802-2243871,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb

Listen up.....

ISLAM's greatest cultural 'trick', is the projecting of 'BLAME', onto non-moslems, for all the 'grievances' of moslems...

Part 152 A - Muhammad and Projective Identification
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV94fxLPSuY

Part 152 B - Muhammad and Projective Identification
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEA5mbRjITs

A full list of all, al Rassooli's "AhmadsQuran3" talks on YOUTUBE....
http://www.al-rassooli.com/ahmadsquran3/

FURTHER....

The land of present day Israel, is the ancient homeland of the Jewish people.

Parts of modern Israel still retain their ancient names, like for example,

'Judea'

.

Does the root of the name, Judea, ring a bell?

This [Judea] is an area which the Western mainstream media now cravenly refer to as, "The West Bank",
....seeking to to obfuscate its proper and original inhabitants.

And please remember, that the 'Palestinians' Arabs, have a homeland.

Jordan

, is the 'Palestinian' homeland.

But the local Arabs still today declare that it is an abomination, that the Jewish people should be allowed to return to what is, THEIR OWN ANCIENT HOMELAND.

So, putting aside this ISLAMIC malice, against the local unbelievers [i.e. the Jewish people],
.....don't the Jewish people have just as much right [historically] as anyone to and area of land, so many of us now, glibly, call 'Palestine'?

AND WHY NO PEACE?

Why won't local moslems allow the Jewish people to live in their own ancient homeland??

Why can't there be peace between moslems and Jews?

Is the lack of peace between moslems and Jews because the 'Palestinians' do not have a 'homeland'?

No.

Jordan, is the 'Palestinians' homeland.

The lack of peace between moslems and Jews is solely because of the sadistic, unmerciful, ISLAMIC cultural pride, inherent in all true moslems.

A pride that, cannot, WILL NOT, allow non-moslems [the Jewish people] to live in their their own ancient homeland.

"Jews forced out of homelands by arabs"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1244453456/21#21

"Israeli treatment of Palestinians"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1229690857/123#123

"Jews"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1240754602/15#15

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Reply #81 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 8:43pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 15^th, 2009 at 8:00pm:

tallow, I know you're not the brightest spark on this forum, but I think you can manage to transpose the situation of the Palestinians onto the situation of Australia, just to give yourself a little better insight into their plight, if indeed you care. If you don't care, then let us just finish it here, and cut the crap.

If Australia were divided up into smaller provinces and you happened to live in one of those provinces that they were offering to give 50% of to the Muslims, just because it didn't exist previously as an independant nation, would that somehow 'cheapen' your claim to your home?, to your land, to your community? The "It was a British mandate at the time" argument is just bollocks and you know it. It doesn't alter people's position whatsoever, nor does it justify displacing them from their homes, nor does it weaken their claims to their land, not even by a nanometre.

You probably would have a working analogy if you talked about the British granting independence to the Germans in the Adelaide Hills and the Barossa before 1901, before an actual, independent country called Australia was declared.

But your spluttering about the British or the UN giving anything of post-1901 Australia to anyone is thick and clueless.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Jihad for Kids, Birds of Paradise Reply #82 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 8:55pm soren, The analogy is quite valid. Australia today is a huge single nation. Likewise all of the Middle east was huge single nation prior to the British invasion.
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Reply #83 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 9:05pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 15^th, 2009 at 8:55pm:

soren,

The analogy is quite valid. Australia today is a huge single nation. Likewise all of the Middle east was huge single nation prior to the British invasion.

SO you want to give Israel and Palesinian territories back to Turkey? But Turkey is not the Ottoman Empire, only one its successor countries. And who should get all the other successor countries like Syria, Lebanon and Armenia and the rest? Well, where is the entity to which they can all be handed? There is no caliphate in existence, so who should get them? "Muslimia" that was the Ottoman Empire is gone.
The Muslims destroyed the Eastern Roman Empire, the Western powers destroyed the Ottoman Empire. 1:1.

Now what?

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Jihad for Kids, Birds of Paradise Reply #84 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 9:30pm soren, stop wasting my time and yours with your juvenile antics. We both know I didn't mention anything about Turkey. The people who live in the land are the ones being dispossessed of their homes. If you can't sympathise with their plight, then you're just a heartless bastard, and I pity you. End of dialogue.
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Reply #85 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 10:17pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 15^th, 2009 at 9:30pm:

soren, stop wasting my time and yours with your juvenile antics.

We both know I didn't mention anything about Turkey. The people who live in the land are the ones being dispossessed of their homes. If you can't sympathise with their plight, then you're just a heartless bastard, and I pity you.

End of dialogue.

Ok, princess.

Which country had jurisdiction over Palestine on 27 April 1947? In other words, for the slow boys in the back, Israel declared independence from which political entity the next day?
Not the ottoman empire, not Turkey, not glorious Muslimia, not the the mighty non-existent wet dream of a caliphate, not Mohammedania, not the great Muslim pie-in-the-sky glorious fatherland.
From the British. Why? because the British had jurisdiction over the land. Not the Arabs. Not the Palestinians. Not the Jordanians or the Egyptians or the Saudies or Syrians or anyone else.

If you are thick and your head is hurting, I cant help you. Talk to Lestat, he will feel your pain.

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Reply #87 - Jul 15^th, 2009 at 10:46pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 15^th, 2009 at 8:00pm:

tallow, I know you're not the brightest spark on this forum, but I think you can manage to transpose the situation of the Palestinians onto the situation of Australia, just to give yourself a little better insight into their plight, if indeed you care. If you don't care, then let us just finish it here, and cut the crap.

If Australia were divided up into smaller provinces and you happened to live in one of those provinces that they were offering to give 50% of to the Muslims, just because it didn't exist previously as an independant nation, would that somehow 'cheapen' your claim to your home?, to your land, to your community? The "It was a British mandate at the time" argument is just bollocks and you know it. It doesn't alter people's position whatsoever, nor does it justify displacing them from their homes, nor does it weaken their claims to their land, not even by a nanometre.

abu, I don't claim to be he brightest spark on this forum but I am brighter then any mohammedan who have proverbial mohammed's rocks with which he wiped his ass in their heads.
But let's dispense with this islamic pleasantries and look at facts and reason.

The facts are that Arab Palestinians were given more then 50% of the British mandate but the islamic do gooders like you who have nothing to loose told them "no, take it all" and they tried to do it by butchering Jews. But Jews in self-defence kicked their sorry bums against all odds because Allah was on the Jewish side. The reason is that Allah is all knowing and omnipotent and is always right. Don't you agree with that? If you don't then Allah is not your god but shaitan is. If you agree then you should submit to the will of Allah and stop making fool out of yourself and your religion. The choice as you know is yours and Allah is my witness.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Jihad for Kids, Birds of Paradise Reply #88 - Jul 16^th, 2009 at 12:20am Tallow, the "Jordan is the Arab part of the BMP" nonsense has been addressed enough times before, read back over the countless places in which I wiped Calanen and Grendel out of the discussion on that one. I can't believe anyone is still game enough to bring out this piece of poorly crafted Zionist propaganda.
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Reply #89 - Jul 16^th, 2009 at 7:57am

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16^th, 2009 at 12:20am:

Tallow, the "Jordan is the Arab part of the BMP" nonsense has been addressed enough times before, read back over the countless places in which I wiped Calanen and Grendel out of the discussion on that one.

I can't believe anyone is still game enough to bring out this piece of poorly crafted Zionist propaganda.

My old bearded White Queen, you wiped nothing except perhaps your nose. And we know you can't believe a lot of plain and obvious things, but have no difficulty believing as many as six impossibilities before breakfast, as long as they are derived from old Arabic folklore.

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