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Islam and the Veil
Jul 10th, 2009 at 9:18pm
 
July 7, 2009      No. 533

   Reformist Iranian-French Writer Chahdortt Djavann: The Hijab, a Political Weapon and Form of Sexual Abuse, Should Be Outlawed
   By: N. Maruani *

Introduction

The debate on the veil in France recently flared up again, after French Secretary of State for Urban Policies Fadela Amara said that the burqa and niqab should be banned in public places, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy said in parliament that the burqa was "not welcome in France." [1] In this debate, French media outlets have frequently cited the writings of Chahdortt Djavann.

An Iranian-born French writer, Djavann is the author of two influential books, Bas les Voiles (Veils Off) [2] and Que Pense Allah de l'Europe (What Does Allah Think of Europe?), [3] both of which deal with the meaning and implications of the veil as a political tool. [4] Veils Off in particular had a strong impact on the veil debate in France, including on the discussions that took place in the French parliament prior to the passing of the 2004 law banning "conspicuous religious signs in schools." [5] Djavann testified before the Stasi Commission, formed in 2003 by then-president Jacques Chirac to investigate the issue of preserving secularism in the French Republic and to prepare the ground for passing a law on the veil. [6] During the hearing, she clashed with French sociologist Alain Touraine, who claimed that Iranian women were happy with wearing the veil.

Prominent political figures wrote her to express support for her views, including former prime minister Laurent Fabius, as well as Chirac himself, who wrote that Veils Off would have a positive impact on the difficult debate over secularism.

The following is a review of Djavann's writings on the issue of the veil, based on her books Bas les Voiles and Que Pense Allah de l'Europe?, and on several interviews with her.

The Veil as a Political Weapon

Que Pense Allah de l'Europe first presents the views of the proponents of the veil, such as Muslim women who say, "The veil represents my religion, my culture and my identity. It is a sign of modesty, of self-respect, of submission to God. It is a religious duty written in the Koran... [I wear it] out of my own free will..." Also presented are the opinions of European intellectuals who defend the veil on the basis of "the right to be different" and "religious freedom," and who ask, for example, "If body-piercing and displaying one's navel is allowed, how can the veil be banned?"

In response to this argument, Djavann points out that no regime has ever forced women to go about with their navels showing, whereas the veil is imposed upon several hundred million women around the world. She writes that the veil cannot be presented as a personal choice, disregarding centuries of Islamic history. She adds that it is inappropriate to probe the motivations of every young girl wearing the veil when what is at stake is a political agenda.

Djavann explains further: "The veil has never been innocent or innocuous. It has always signified the submission of women to men and the denial of legal rights to women in Islamic countries." She stresses that the Islamists did not invent the veil, but have turned it into a weapon and made of it the symbol of their cause.

Addressing the growing phenomenon of veiled women in European Muslim communities, Djavann points out its centrality to the Islamist propaganda: "The political, ideological, and psychological impact of the veil goes far beyond its appearance… If this weren't the case, why would the Islamists make it their main focus? [7]... It constitutes a constant call to order by Islamic law."

"The Spread of the Veil in Europe is a Very Clear Indicator of the Spread of Islamism": "Iran Has Imposed the Veil on All Women, Including Christian and Jewish Women"

The veil, Djavann argues, reflects a refusal to integrate, and its spread in Europe is a very clear indicator of the spread of Islamism. Therefore, intellectuals who defend it, in an attempt to be understanding and compassionate, are in fact promoting Islamism: "The French intellectuals who oppose the banning of the veil in secular schools must understand that they are supporting Islamic dictatorships," she writes.

Djavann stresses that Islam can exist without the veil, but the Islamist system cannot, because "the veil is the symbol, the flag and the keystone of the Islamic system." As an example, she presents Iran, which "has imposed the veil on all women, including Christian and Jewish women, and has deployed its paramilitary forces to enforce the wearing of the veil throughout Iran."

As for those young girls who insist on wearing the veil in France, she says that "they encourage oppression against all the women in Muslim countries who strive to escape the totalitarian hold of the hijab, and [even] risk their lives to do so."


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Islamists Reject French Law - Yet Strive to Impose Their Own Laws on Public Life


Islamists claim that the veil is being rejected due to racism, and they call for respect for freedom of worship. However, Djavann points out, when Islamists threatened France because of the ban on the veil in public schools, what was at stake was not the girls' hair, or religion - but political power. While denying the State the right to interfere in what they term religious affairs, the Islamists are striving to impose their laws on schools, including physical education classes, and on higher education and public services. As in Iran, "in order to enforce Islamic regulations, [Iranian leaders] tried to implement mosque laws in public areas: separate entrances for men and women, separate dining rooms, separate libraries and workrooms, separate swimming pools…" [8]

Djavann argues that Islamists take advantage of the difficulties encountered by many Muslims in integrating into French society - difficulties intensified by the veil. He says: "The veil is not the attractive symbol of identity, but the expression of estrangement and isolation… "

Islamists seek to enroll the children of immigrants into the Islamist system in order to gain political power, Djavann says: To those who feel excluded, preachers offer the homeland of Islam. Islam prevails over all nationalities and over cultural and linguistic differences. "The preachers claim that there must be a return to the lost Islamic identity. This identity is presented as a remedy to Western ills." Djavann terms this strategy in which the veil is a central component "Islamic colonialism."

Muslim Women Are Told They Can Swim at Specific Hours - But If They Swim During Mixed Hours, They Are Called Whores

Djavann believes that there must be no compromise with Islamism in state-managed institutions, since any compromise will lead to more oppression. She gives the example of the Islamists' demand for separate hours for men and women for swimming pools: "This is a case of indirect repression. Muslim women are told they can swim at specific hours, but if they choose to go swimming in mixed hours, they will be called whores… It is in the name of democracy that Islamists demand separate hours for women. And then they manage to impose those separate hours on all Muslim women in their areas." [9]

Regarding the situation in schools, she writes: "Those intellectuals who oppose expelling students from school because they are veiled, on the premise that this exclusion will only worsen their situation whereas school will teach them freedom, [are mistaken]. Allowing veil-wearing in schools will only encourage it in France. Allowing girls to wear the veil at school places those teens living in [immigrant] suburbs under the yoke of Islamic dogma, and makes it even more difficult for them to attain emancipation. Some of them have already been called whores because they refused to wear the veil."

Veiling Young Girls: Sexual Abuse That Should Be Outlawed

Djavann also analyzes the social and psychological damage caused by wearing the veil, saying that it denies women any normal social life, because it reduces their social life to that of sexual objects. Wearing the veil only "points to what the veil is hiding… It hides what no one might look at if it were not hidden… The veil calls the attention and energy of men" to what it conceals. As the Islamist system covers women's heads, it only sees them as genitals, Djavann argues. Hence she calls the veil "pornographic on the symbolic level." [10]

Djavann especially condemns the veiling of little girls, calling it abuse because it makes them internalize at an early age that they should be ashamed: "Don't we hide what we are ashamed of?... Since childhood, these veiled girls feel guilty… From childhood, little girls are aware that they are a threat to boys and men…" In addition, the girls are a "constant threat to Islamic morals: a girl could bring about a crime, be slaughtered by her father or brothers to cleanse their sullied honor. Indeed, the honor of men is cleansed with girls' blood!"

The veil may mean several things, Djavann explains. It may mean that the woman has become the property of a man; it may also mean - in the case of young girls - that they are being marketed as sexual objects, ready to wed.

She goes on to write: "When you veil a child, you put her on the sex and marriage market, making her exist only for the interest of men, for [the purpose of] sex and marriage… Forcing the veil on a minor is abuse, because you do what you like to her body and turn her into a sex object designated for men… Several ethnologists once defended genital mutilation in the name of cultural differences… Let us not make the same mistake with the Islamic veil: It is not in the name of secularism that veil wearing should be banned… but in the name of human rights and the protection of minors."

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Djavann notes that "even in Muslim countries, making minors wear the veil is considered extremist. In its previous history, France knew how to limit the influence of Catholic rules. Why shouldn't it do the same with Islamic rules? [12]

The Veil Damages Self Image, Social Life - For Both Women and Men

Djavann adds: "If you are a woman [in Islamist societies], you dare not go out on your own or have a cup of coffee at a bar. Relations between men and women are reduced to… sexuality… In Iran, in universities, circulars forbid girls and boys from greeting each other… Can you imagine what humiliation this is?" [13]

Recalling the decade she spent wearing a veil in Iran, she says that much of the problem comes from the fact that the honor of Muslim men depends upon the female body: "I felt humiliation at being a woman… A girl is considered [a source of] shame and danger. Think about it: she may harm a man's honor! I would like someone to tell me why a man feels defiled if a woman violates modesty regulations. Why does the honor of Muslim men depend on the bodies of Muslim women? They should be responsible for their own honor!" [14]

Men also bear the consequences of this dependency, Djavann asserts: "This kind of relationship is more damaging to men than to women… The man bases his existence on his relationship to the female sex… He is a man because he is able to guarantee the decency and the good behavior of the female body within his family; he is a man because he owns the female body - his mother's, his sister's, his wife's, his daughters'…" In other words, "the more a woman is ashamed and modest, the more her father, brothers and husband are honored…"

Djavann also points out that the debate on the veil issue should not conceal other problems: economic inequality, lodging, education. Political leaders should not evade their responsibilities and abandon immigrants to their predicament, dooming them to ghettoes cut off from French society.

* N. Maruani is a Research Fellow at MEMRI.

[1] Sarkozy declared in a parliamentary address on June 22, 2009, that the burqa, which covers women from head to toe, is "not welcome" in France, evoking strong criticism from French Muslim leaders.

[2] Bas les Voiles, Gallimard, 2003.

[3] Que Pense Allah de l'Europe?, Gallimard, 2004.

[4] In 2006, Djavann published "Comment Peut-On Etre Français?" ("How to Be French," Flammarion, 2006), a philosophical essay addressed to 18th century French author Montesquieu, who wrote the famous satirical work Persian Letters (Lettres persanes).

[5] This law bans the wearing of conspicuous religious symbols in French public primary and secondary schools.

[6] L'Express (France), October 30, 2003, http://www.lexpress.fr/info/societe/dossier/foulard/dossier.asp?ida=409994.

This 20-member committee, headed by then French ombudsman Bernard Stasi, dealt with the issue of preserving "the neutrality of public services" and promoting "cohesion and brotherhood among [French] citizens" while respecting "pluralism, religious freedom and freedom of speech, gender equality and women's dignity." Modeled on the 1987 committee on the "code of nationality," it held consultions with political parties, religious authorities and representatives of civil society.

[7] "Dévoilez Chahdortt," an interview by Isabelle Robineau in the French literary monthly Topo, http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:IITZshokpqwJ:www.chapitre.com/accueil.asp%3.

[8] Tariq Ramadan advocated separate hours for men and women in swimming pools, saying: "Today swimming pools here… are not Islamic… You cannot go there because your eyes are set on things that you should not see…" See video on website of French intellectual, writer, and activist Caroline Fourest: http://carolinefourest.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/tariq-ramadan-contre-les-piscines-mixtes/ or on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAuLhit-BHA.

[9] "Devoilez Chahdortt," an interview by Isabelle Robineau in the French literary monthly Topo, http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:IITZshokpqwJ:www.chapitre.com/accueil.asp%3.

[10] See also "Une pudeur pornographique" ("A pornographic modesty"), published in the Communist daily l'Humanité, December 19, 2003, http://www.humanite.fr/popup_print.php3?id_article=384774.

[11] Interview by Victor Dixmier, www.leparisien.com, October 17, 2003.

[12] Interview with Chahdortt Djavann published by online French daily on Middle East affairs www.proche-orient.info, October 24, 2003.

[13] "Devoilez Chahdortt", an interview by Isabelle Robineau in the French literary monthly Topo, http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:IITZshokpqwJ:www.chapitre.com/accueil.asp%3.

[14] Interview by Ilana Moryoussef, in the online Middle East affairs daily www.proche-orient.info, October 24, 2003.

http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=IA53309
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Reply #3 - Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:29pm
 
It's all nonsense because it's based on a flawed premise, that the Hijab is some sort of religious symbol. It is nothing of the sort, and those Muslims arguing it is, have been duped into doing so, by the French themselves.

The hijab is simply an article of clothing, and is no more a religious symbol for women than knee length shorts are for men.

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Reply #4 - Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:40pm
 

uhuh - tell that to all the rabid islamics the world over, my deceitful ideological freak.
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Reply #5 - Jul 12th, 2009 at 10:20am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:29pm:
It's all nonsense because it's based on a flawed premise, that the Hijab is some sort of religious symbol. It is nothing of the sort, and those Muslims arguing it is, have been duped into doing so, by the French themselves.

The hijab is simply an article of clothing, and is no more a religious symbol for women than knee length shorts are for men.

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Hijab has nothing to do with Islam. Just like Muslims burning down embassies and murdering translators and film makers in the name of Islam have nothing, really, to do with Islam. I can't believe that. Nobody can. Even if I take a deep breath and shut my eyes.

This is another excellent example from our own time of why Islam is intellectually stagnant, absurd  and a mental straight-jacket. You guys are the White Queens without the charm:

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`You needn't say "exactly",' the Queen remarked. `I can believe it without that. Now I'll give you something to believe. I'm just one hundred and one, five months and a day.'

`I ca'n't believe that!' said Alice.

`Can't you?' the Queen said in a pitying tone. `Try again: draw a long breath, and shut your eyes.'

Alice laughed. `There's no use trying,' she said `one can't believe impossible things.'

`I daresay you haven't had much practice,' said the Queen. `When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.




I daresay you guys practice five times a day, with your arses in the air. For starters.








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Reply #6 - Jul 17th, 2009 at 11:51am
 
Unbelievable but true....

Headdress and sandals disguise for PO robber
Published Date: 16 July 2009
By Polly Rippon
A ROBBER dressed in a woman's Islamic headdress and open-toed sandals stole cash from a post office in Sheffield.
The weapon-wielding raider threatened the sub-postmaster at Tinsley Post Office and forced him to hand over money before running off on Sheffield Road.

Post Office Ltd are offering up to £5,000 for information leading to a successful prosecution. ADVERTISEMENT
Police said the male suspect, who was Asian, burst into the shop at 5.30pm on Tuesday.

He was slim, 5ft 9ins tall and wore dark glasses, a knee-length, dark hijab and a dress with a light pattern. He carried a Burberry-style rucksack.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Headdress-and-sandals-disguise-for.5464900.jp




I wonder how long before garden variety robbers twig onto the benefits of multiculturalism for their industry - the usefulness of Muslim get-up for committing a crime. Can't wear a bike helmet into a bank but who will stop the blamless ethnic-minotrity ladies?
ANd what will the imams says when the infidels disguise themselves as fidels to commit crimes.
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Christians in Sumatra: jilbab norm, an excuse to introduce the Shariah
Jakarta (AsiaNews)
The Jilbab is not part of Indonesian culture, but comes from the Arab tradition, to impose a form of dress that conforms to the precepts of Islam reveals "a project to introduce Shariah" and is a blatant "abuse of power." That is the reaction of  Christians in Pekanbaru, capital of Riau province,  Sumatra, to the local mayor’s decision to make the traditional clothing that leaves only the face uncovered mandatory by law.
" I strongly oppose the idea,” says a local Christian, speaking on the condition of anonymity for security reasons - of imposing the Muslim attires to any students in Pekanbaru”. He stresses that the decision "is contrary to the Constitution of 1945" because all legislation must be "general" and not specifically relate "to a particular religious confession." Another resident - also under conditions of anonymity - adds that "the introduction of the law is just one more step towards the full implementation of Islamic law in the city" and an example "of abuse of power."
The dispute stems from the decision by Erizal Muluk, Mayor of Pekanbaru, to introduce a dress code that conforms to Islamic precepts for students in the city. The rule came into force July 13 last, and is valid for the school year 2009/10, involving students from elementary to higher school level.
Most representatives of the local Islamic community favour the law, describing it as a "good" decision.




Well, girls and women are the battleground in the clash of civilisations.



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Reply #8 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 5:44pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:29pm:
It's all nonsense because it's based on a flawed premise, that the Hijab is some sort of religious symbol. It is nothing of the sort
, and those Muslims arguing it is, have been duped into doing so, by the French themselves.

The hijab is simply an article of clothing, and is no more a religious symbol for women than knee length shorts are for men.

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The hijab worn among women, within moslem communities, is a symbol of their oppression, and a symbol of their implied consent, to their own subjugation [enslavement] to the demands of moslem males, within the moslem community.

Those women who dare, to not wear the hijab around moslem men, are always insulted, and frequently viciously assaulted, to 'put them in their place'.

Google,
muslims acid thrown in face uncovered
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=muslims+acid+thrown+in+face+uncovered&bt...





As Calanen already astutely remarked elsewhere....

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.....That, and the risk of being 'honor killed' by their relatives, or beaten to within an inch of their lives because it is a regular tenet of Islam for a man to beat his wife.

You don't have to beat or kill everyone, for everyone to be afraid.



"french cowards"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1246017314/12#12




The wearing of the hijab by moslem women, within moslem communities, has today become a Pavlovian 'response', after generations of violence and intimidation, visited upon all women within moslem communities, for any rebellion against the demands and dictates relating to their custom of dress, from their male counterparts.








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The wearing of the hijab by moslem women, within moslem communities, has today become a Pavlovian 'response'....


"The veil is Womens Liberation"
"Arrest Jack Straw for Inciting Religious Hatred"
"Jack Straw Judeo-Christian Terrorist"
"Jack Straw Oppressor of Muslim Women"






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Reply #9 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 5:52pm
 
Sickens me to see so many woman wearing the symbol that makes them second class citizens in their own community. Islam keeps people stuck in the dark ages.
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Reply #10 - Jul 18th, 2009 at 6:49pm
 
Check out www.ishr.org, especially the "what can you do?" section"
http://ishr.org/index.php?id=761
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The use and abuse of personal, porttable tents:

Taliban suicide bombers dressed in burkas hit cities
21 Jul 2009
Taliban suicide bombers dressed in burkas killed six people in eastern Afghanistan when they stormed government buildings and a military base.
Six suicide bombers, some of them also carrying guns, tried to enter several government buildings but were shot dead before reaching their targets
Zabihullah Mujahed, Taliban spokesman, said the Islamist militia were responsible for both attacks.
"Fifteen of our mujahideen – suicide bombers who also have guns – entered the governor's compound and other government buildings [in Gardez, Mujahed]," he said.
"Four of our mujahideen entered the Jalalabad airbase – they have killed several Afghan and foreign forces,"
The bodies of four tribesmen whose throats had been slit were found in a deserted place in Koza Bandai in Swat. And on Monday, the army reported separate clashes had left 20 people dead, including an officer.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/5878787/Taliban-suici...
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Reply #12 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 11:49pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 10th, 2009 at 10:29pm:
It's all nonsense because it's based on a flawed premise, that the Hijab is some sort of religious symbol. It is nothing of the sort, and those Muslims arguing it is, have been duped into doing so, by the French themselves.

The hijab is simply an article of clothing, and is no more a religious symbol for women than knee length shorts are for men.

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Yes, next:

Moral policing: mind your mannequins, Gazans told
Reuters/Gaza

Men cannot go topless on Gaza beaches, owners of clothes shops are told to remove mannequins displaying lingerie and some couples complain of being asked for marriage papers as they walk in the streets.
Human Rights groups and critics say some in the Islamist Hamas group, which rules Gaza, are exerting pressure to impose Islamic law on the public at a time when others seek to engage with the Western world.
Hamas, which wrested control of the Gaza Strip from Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah faction in fighting in 2007, denies plans to impose Islamic laws.
But Gazans say bearded men who identify themselves with the ministry of religious affairs are advising people to follow Islamic values, stop smoking and stick to conservative forms of Muslim dress for men and women.
People from the Virtue Campaign of the religious affairs ministry came and said mannequins were a provocative source of temptation,” said clothing-store owner Saoud al-Rayes.

“They said if we did not remove the mannequins which display underwear, they would confiscate them,” (and play doctors and temptations behind the bike shed) Rayes said.
The Hamas-run government denies any bid to impose Islamic law, but a recent decision by the Hamas-appointed chief justice ordering women lawyers to cover their hair has revived fears.
Ahmed Abu Khaled said three young men had approached him recently as he went for a swim without a T-shirt on Gaza beach.
They told him that was wrong and urged him to stick to Islamic and moral values. “They were polite but I did not think I could argue,” he said.
Taleb Abu Shaar, the minister of religious affairs, said the campaign of his ministry was “cultural and educational”, to spread public awareness but not to force people to do things.
“The campaign is in line with our religion and traditions. We see some dangers threatening youth and some wrongdoings, and our role is advise and to warn our people against bad things,” Abu Shaar said.
“Some people exaggerate the campaign in order to accuse the government to stir fears in society. We do not force people to do what they dislike,” he said.
Human Rights groups expressed concern over decisions made by some Hamas ministers, of which some were later eased, such as checking men walking with women.
Khalil Abu Shammala, director of Ad-Dameer Association for Human Rights, got complaints from people who had been stopped by policemen requesting identity and marriage papers to prove their relationship with opposite sex companions.
“The decision was cancelled after some Hamas leaders noted that its implementation angered the public,” he said.
“There were figures in Hamas calling for imposing Islamic laws ... while others felt it was not the right time,” Abu Shammala said.
Hamas leader Ismail Haniya has recently told worshippers at a mosque that Hamas would not let anyone take the law into their own hands.

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=307048&version...

I can hear Abu Rashid already: "Nothing to do with Islam Next." Of course, nobody believes him.

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Reply #13 - Aug 5th, 2009 at 8:22am
 
seems nothing has got anything to do with islam.

except being attacked by democracies that have freedom of speech.
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Sudan women 'lashed for trousers'   
Several Sudanese women have been flogged as a punishment for dressing "indecently", according to a local journalist who was arrested with them.

Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein, who says she is facing 40 lashes, said she and 12 other women wearing trousers were arrested in a restaurant in the capital, Khartoum.

She told the BBC several of the women had pleaded guilty to the charges and had 10 lashes immediately.

Khartoum, unlike South Sudan, is governed by Sharia law.

Several of those punished were from the mainly Christian and animist south, Ms Hussein said.

Non-Muslims are not supposed to be subject to Islamic law, even in Khartoum and other parts of the mainly Muslim north.

She said that a group of about 20 or 30 police officers entered the popular Khartoum restaurant and arrested all the women wearing trousers.

"I was wearing trousers and a blouse and the 10 girls who were lashed were wearing like me, there was no difference," she told the BBC's Arabic service.

Ms Hussein said some women pleaded guilty to "get it over with" but others, including herself, chose to speak to their lawyers and are awaiting their fates.

Under Sharia law in Khartoum, the normal punishment for "indecent" dressing is 40 lashes.

Ms Hussein is a well-known reporter who writes a weekly column called Men Talk for Sudanese papers. She also works for the United Nations Mission in Sudan.



Non-Muslims flogged by Muslims for wearing trousers. And these barbarians expect us to treat them as equals? ANd they cry victimhood and islamophobia if we notice their barbarity?

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