Just out of curiosity Calanen do you support the reintroduction of the death penalty for those found guilty of committing terrorism?

Or torture by intelligence services to extract information in terrorist cases that could prevent further terrorist attacks?

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 13^th, 2009 at 11:22am:

I think the severing of a limb for theft is an unacceptable brutality as a form of punishment in a modern society.

I don't agree with capital punishment, but I can see the difference between theft and murder.

Maybe a majority of Australians do truly support capital punishment, maybe like the Schappele Corby fiasco, its emotions born of a mob mentality or maybe, as with Americans in the US claiming to be practising Christians, they agree with it because they think they should. If all Americans who claimed to be practising Christians, were in fact practising Christians, then those 3/4 empty churches across the US would be full and there probably wouldn't be enough churches in the US to accommodate them.

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Ok, so even if I did support amputations for theft (which I certainly am not lobbying or calling for), then you'd be supporting a much stronger form of punishment (ie. the ultimate punishment, taking one's very life from them). I don't think it has anything to do with amputation being any more barbaric, because it's simply not more barbaric than execution, it's more about your (all of Western society's in fact) light view of theft.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 13^th, 2009 at 11:24am:











Read their placards...

“Slay those who insult Islam”
“Behead those who insult Islam”
“Massacre those who insult Islam”
“Butcher those who mock Islam”
“Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way”
“Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way”
“Exterminate those who slander Islam”
“Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer”
“Islam will dominate the world”
“Freedom go to hell”
“Europe take some lessons from 9/11”
“Be prepared for the real Holocaust”
“BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders”


Is this freedom of speech?







abu,

If such a display [against ISLAMIC rule] occurred in a Sharia jurisdiction, or an ISLAMIC country, what would be the result?
....[ah, e.g. IRAN of recent days.]


So abu, should we punish those moslems in the UK [image above], with the same penalties which ISLAM dictates for such occasions?

And wouldn't such a punishment be just?

I think that, Yes, it would.

Should we [non-moslems] slay such people, 'without mercy'?

This not me saying this, this is me, requiring that moslems, should be judged and punished according to their own law regarding fomenting civil disturbance and sedition.




The punishment spoken of in the Koran, for sedition against ISLAMIC regimes, is execution (without mercy).....

"Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)."

Koran 33:60,61i
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Proverbs 22:24
Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go:
25  Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.

do the jihadwatch nuts have a book that tells them to murder those that leave them?

thought not.


only a dreadful baseless ideology would do that.

abu - i cant recall reading where the bible says to kill those who want to not be christians.
where is it ?

I have never followed the OT, I'm a christian, not a jew.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 13^th, 2009 at 12:57pm:






Yep,

It is 'magical' what those infidels can accomplish, with Paintshop!!!
/sarc off