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Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:27am
 
Islam - A Religion of War - by Rabbi Eliezer Melamed
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/8917

It is no coincidence that the Arabs have succeeded in imposing the Islamic religion on many nations, to the point where presently there are approximately 1,400,000,000 people who are believers. The genetic code of Islam is directed towards a steadfast war to impose the religion of Mohammad on the entire world by means of the sword. And to achieve this goal, everything is legitimate. If they need to lie, they will lie. If they need to kill, they will kill - hundreds of thousands or even millions. It was not the enchanting beauty of the Islamic religion which drew so many nations to accept it upon themselves, but rather the clear threat of death.

All nations reached their achievements through wars and victories; however, in Islam, unlike other cultures, the principle of compromise is unacceptable, especially a compromise over land. Therefore, even when the Muslims lack the power to defeat their enemy, they are not willing to accept compromise. If they make a cease-fire (tahadeya in Arabic), in the view of Islam, it is only a recess which must be utilized to prepare for the continuation of the war. If possible, in the meantime, they will weaken their opponent with terrorist attacks and ransacking. If not, at the very least they will attempt to anesthetize him with lies, until they are able to attack once again and defeat him.

This fundamental principle causes the Muslims never to lay down their sword; to always be ready for the continuation of the war. This is how the Muslims succeeded to impose their religion on many nations, who in turn, according to this code, continued to conquer additional territory.

Territory Previously Conquered by Islam

According to the Muslim way of thinking, the world is divided into two areas: Dar al-Islam is the area already conquered by Islam. Dar al-Harb is the area of war, which the Arabs are commanded to conquer until it is turned into Muslim territory. After a certain territory has been conquered by Islam, it is declared as holy Muslim territory, which is forbidden to be relinquished under any circumstances.

Even if this territory is conquered by another nation for hundreds of years, according to Muslim law it is still considered holy land which must be returned to Muslim control. Accordingly, Muslims execute terrorist attacks in Spain and large parts of India, because the Islam which conquered them in the past, demands them in return now. And if unable to conquer them, Muslims will at least carry out terrorist attacks, so that normal life cannot be conducted there until they are returned to Islamic rule.
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Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 7:34am
 
Taking your propaganda directly from Rabbis now Grendel?  Grin

Islam is a religion of peace... and war. Since both are a natural part of the human condition, and any system which claims to organise humanity's affairs that denied it, would just lead to much greater harm, since it wouldn't properly regulate it, and when it's adherents inevitably engaged in war, they'd do so in such an abominable way. Like engaging in cannibalism, raping, pillaging and the like...
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Reply #2 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 7:42am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 7:34am:
Taking your propaganda directly from Rabbis now Grendel?  Grin

Islam is a religion of peace... and war. Since both are a natural part of the human condition, and any system which claims to organise humanity's affairs that denied it, would just lead to much greater harm, since it wouldn't properly regulate it, and when it's adherents inevitably engaged in war, they'd do so in such an abominable way. Like engaging in cannibalism, raping, pillaging and the like...



Did you convert to Islam before or after Sept. 11, 2001?

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Reply #3 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 8:22am
 

abu - Quote:
Islam is a religion of peace... and war


islam is hated by most nonmuslims who have studied mohammad and his  uncontrolled sexuality and bloodthirsty ways.

when they learn peopole are murdered if they leave your sh-it belief, they find it hard to believe.
When they question other mad muslims, they are astonished at the intolerance and veiled aggression of you scum.



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Reply #4 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 10:56am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 7:34am:
Islam is a religion of peace... and war. Since both are a natural part of the human condition
, and any system which claims to organise humanity's affairs that denied it, would just lead to much greater harm, since it wouldn't properly regulate it, and when it's adherents inevitably engaged in war, they'd do so in such an abominable way. Like engaging in cannibalism, raping, pillaging and the like...




abu,

Not so.

The world, is for the 'worldly'.

ISLAM pretends to be a righteous religion, but ISLAM behaves in the world, more like a
secular
,
worldly
, political party, than a religion.





In true religion, the spiritual has very little to do with the worldly.

Except perhaps as to show guiding principles, for the worldly person, who may be, is seeking the spiritual path.



But within ISLAM, the spiritual and the worldly merge, and are inseparable.

The spiritual is secured, within the worldly.

Within ISLAM, the worldly [swords], are a means to the spiritual [supposedly!].

ISLAM is in grave error [spiritually].

But don't tell a moslem that!

He won't believe you, he
CAN'T
believe you.

Why not?

Because he perceives himself to be far too 'invested' already, in his 'religion', to concede error.

And in that, that moslem, sins against the spirit of God, which is calling him, WHICH HE REPEATEDLY, TURNS AWAY FROM.






The worldly, and the secular, are secured through the political 'way' or 'path' in this world.

The way of force, and violence.

Dictionary,
political = =
1 of or relating to the government or public affairs of a country. Ø interested in or active in politics.
2 chiefly derogatory done or acting in the interests of status within an organization rather than on principle.


The worldly, and the secular, are about the use of force, to achieve 'aims', whether those aims are 'good', or evil.





The spiritual, is the search for meaning, the search, for the mind of God himself.

Dictionary,
religion = =
1 the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Ø a particular system of faith and worship.
2 a pursuit or interest followed with devotion.
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+++++++++++iJohn 3:4
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5  Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9  Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10  Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11  Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?


John 3:31
He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.


1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15  But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16  For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.


1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Islam - a religion of War
Reply #5 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 2:32pm
 
Quote:
ISLAM pretends to be a righteous religion, but ISLAM behaves in the world, more like a secular, worldly, political party, than a religion.


Quite amusing, never heard Islam described as secular before. You do realise what secular means right? ie. seperating political affairs from religious beliefs, Islam is definitely not secular.

Also quite ironic, since Christians would have to be the most secular bunch on the earth, and in fact use their scriptures to try and justify their secularism (render unto caesar...).

In fact most of what you've claimed more rightly applies to Christianity. Since Christianity is the one which pretends to be all righteous, but in fact is the most brutal and oppressive religion on earth, whose adherents have been responsible for most of the world's wars, suffering, and most despicable acts during wartime in the past 2000 years. Sure Christians have been pacified a little (for the past century or so only, mind you), but that's only because your apostated atheists and secularists have taken over and now commit most of the excesses in your society.
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Reply #6 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 3:03pm
 
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Islam is a religion of peace... and war. Since both are a natural part of the human condition, and any system which claims to organise humanity's affairs that denied it, would just lead to much greater harm, since it wouldn't properly regulate it, and when it's adherents inevitably engaged in war, they'd do so in such an abominable way. Like engaging in cannibalism, raping, pillaging and the like...


You are a sad deluded individual aren't you.
As for the comments from the Israelis... I think if anyone would know about Islam and its ways,  it would be them.
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Reply #7 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 3:07pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 2:32pm:
Quote:
ISLAM pretends to be a righteous religion, but ISLAM behaves in the world, more like a secular, worldly, political party, than a religion.


Quite amusing, never heard Islam described as secular before. You do realise what secular means right? ie. seperating political affairs from religious beliefs, Islam is definitely not secular.

Also quite ironic, since Christians would have to be the most secular bunch on the earth, and in fact use their scriptures to try and justify their secularism (render unto caesar...).

In fact most of what you've claimed more rightly applies to Christianity. Since Christianity is the one which pretends to be all righteous,





abu,

You've got it wrong [....again].

Any Christian worth his salt, will tell you that Christians are not righteous.

God is righteous.

And he is the God of Israel, at that!       Grin





Quote:
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but in fact [Christianity] is the most brutal and oppressive religion on earth, whose adherents have been responsible for most of the world's wars, suffering, and most despicable acts during wartime in the past 2000 years.
Sure Christians have been pacified a little (for the past century or so only, mind you), but that's only because your apostated atheists and secularists have taken over and now commit most of the excesses in your society.





LOL

That is very debatable.

The Religion of Peace [ISLAM!! ha! ] is culpable, in some of the most barbaric acts in war, against combatants and civilians.

Just look at the conflict over 'Palestine', or Darfur, today.

But ISLAM will never, ever, admit to its own culpability of wrong doing.





See some of the accounts of recent wars conducted by ISLAMISTS....

THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/







Part 039 - Arab and Islamic Imperialism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLfowOSVNYs

Part 040 - Allah's 10pc Share of Muhammad's Plunder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3jgwTJ1cw

Part 041 - Muhammad the Sinful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9UeGoVqFRc



A full list of all, al Rassooli's "AhmadsQuran3" talks on YOUTUBE....
http://www.al-rassooli.com/ahmadsquran3/



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Reply #8 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 3:10pm
 

abu - secular means "relating to the world, ie NOT religious or spiritual.

everyone (except muslims and members of other sects) think politics should NOT be linked to a religion.


christianity was never intended to politically rule

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Reply #9 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:18pm
 
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Sure Christians have been pacified a little



Cannot say the same about all religions.

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Reply #10 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:48pm
 
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And he is the God of Israel,


Your God might be the god of one little nation.

Mine is the God of the entire universe/existence. So good luck to you and your little nationalistic 'god'.

Although secular does carry the meaning of 'that which is wordly', it relates to seperation of wordly and political matters, hence the ideology of secularism is that which seperates between Church and State. Islam has no such concept of wordly. So either way, whichever specific definition you choose, Islam is anything but secular. In Islam, ALL matters are spiritual, there is no wordly.
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Reply #11 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:58pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 2:32pm:
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Christianity is the one which pretends to be all righteous
, but in fact is the most brutal and oppressive religion on earth





Christians are 'changed' by the spirit of God.

Christians recognise, the spirit of God, within them.
....call it a 'conscience' which speaks to them, and is always there.



And it would be useless for a Christian to do 'good', to try to be righteous,
....seeking thereby, to get to heaven/paradise.


Christians [should] always try to do what is 'good',
....merely, for goodness sake.
....because they are changed.





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Deuteronomy 32:18
Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
19  And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
20  And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.


Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.


Psalms 11:4
The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5  The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.


Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.


Hebrews 1:9
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


Revelation 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.




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Reply #12 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 5:03pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:58pm:
Christians are 'changed' by the spirit of God.

Christians recognise, the spirit of God, within them.

And it would be useless for a Christian to do 'good',
....seeking thereby, to get to heaven/paradise.

Christians [should] always try to do what is 'good',
....merely, for goodness sake.
....because, the are changed.

Should be no need for purgatory and hell then.
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Reply #13 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 5:18pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 5:03pm:
Yadda wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:58pm:
Christians are 'changed' by the spirit of God.

Christians recognise, the spirit of God, within them.

And it would be useless for a Christian to do 'good',
....seeking thereby, to get to heaven/paradise.

Christians [should] always try to do what is 'good',
....merely, for goodness sake.
....because, the are changed.


Should be no need for purgatory and hell then.





Oh, we need that place for all of the scoffers, and evil doers, helian!!

LOL



Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


Why, "....the fearful" too?


My guess it is, that 'the fearful', are those who know what is right, and know what is wrong,
.....but for selfish, and 'fearful' reasons, allow the evildoers to do what they do, when they could speak against evil.

They are
cowards
, who are happy, to allow others, to be victims, of the evildoers.





All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke



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Reply #14 - Jul 16th, 2009 at 5:50pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 16th, 2009 at 4:48pm:
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And he is the God of Israel,


Your God might be the god of one little nation.

Mine is the God of the entire universe/existence. So good luck to you and your little nationalistic 'god'.






Paraphrasing abu,

"My god is bigger than your god!! So there!"





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We shall see, won't we.i++++++++++iJeremiah 23:3
And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
4  And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
5  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7  Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8  But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.



Isaiah 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.




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