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Dead US woman's 'foetus removed'
Jul 30th, 2009 at 1:51am
 
This is truly sickening, but Western society is not sick and in need of serious reform...




Dead US woman's 'foetus removed'


A 23-year-old pregnant woman has been found dead with her unborn baby cut from her womb, police in the US state of Massachusetts have said.

Police are trying to find the missing eight-month-old foetus, which they said could have survived with medical help.

Darlene Haynes was discovered on Monday by her Worcester city landlord, who had noticed a "horrifying smell".

Her body was in the bedroom closet wrapped in bedding and had apparently been there several days, police said.

The last known contact anyone had with Ms Haynes was on Thursday when she sent a text message to a friend saying she was having drinks with a friend in her apartment in Worcester.

Police said they have not determined the exact cause of Ms Haynes' death, but an autopsy had determined a foetus was removed from her body.

It is not the first such case in the United States.

Lisa Montgomery was convicted two years ago of murdering Bobbi Jo Stinnett, whose foetus she removed. The baby girl survived.

There have been at least four other similar cases in the US.


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Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:42pm
 
Thank God the baby at least survived this. Now she has to grow up knowing she was ripped out of her mum's stomach before she was even born...

Why are people in American society committing this kind of crap? Seems to be a pattern to it also, most are in their mid-30's and often are known to the victim. Surely this has something to do with America's culture and values..




Baby cut from mother found alive


A baby who was cut from her mother's womb has been found alive two days after the woman's body was discovered, US police have said.

A woman who had the baby with her when found in New Hampshire was charged with being a fugitive from justice.

The girl was said to be in "fairly good health," according to Worcester police Sergeant Kerry Hazelhurst.

The body of her mother, Darlene Haynes, 23, was found in her apartment on Monday, apparently killed days before.

     
US FOETUS ABDUCTION CASES
1987: Darci Pierce, 19, abducted and killed Cindy Ray in New Mexico and cut out her baby.
1995: Debbie Evans was murdered in Illinois, along with two of her children. A baby son survived, as did the foetus.
1996: 17-year-old Carethia Curry was murdered by a friend, Felicia Scott, 37, who stole her foetus.
2000: Michelle Bica invited a pregnant friend to her home in Ohio, shot her dead and cut out her baby.
2004: Lisa Montgomery killed Bobbi Jo Stinnett and cut out her baby girl, who survived
2007: Pregnant 18-year-old Amanda Howard was abducted in Missouri but freed unharmed. Lauren Gash jailed for kidnap.
2009: Eight-months pregnant Darlene Haynes found dead and the baby removed. The baby was found alive two days later.

Police named the arrested woman as Julie Corey, 35, described as an acquaintance of Ms Haynes.

She was arrested at a shelter in Plymouth, New Hampshire, after staff became suspicious of her and notified police.

She had told staff she was the mother of the six-day-old baby, the Union Leader newspaper reported.

A male companion with her at the time was questioned by police, but was later released.

Darlene Haynes' body was found in her apartment in Massachusetts on Monday after her landlord noticed a "horrifying smell".

A post-mortem examination revealed that her foetus was missing, and that she had head injuries, but the exact cause of death has yet to be determined.

Toxicology tests were being carried out, Worcester Police Detective Captain Edward McGinn Jr said.

The last known contact anyone had with Ms Haynes was a week ago when she sent a text message to a friend saying she was having drinks with a friend in her apartment.

Ms Haynes had three other girls - aged 5, 3 and 18 months.

It is not the first such case in the US.

Lisa Montgomery was given a death sentence two years ago for murdering Bobbi Jo Stinnett, whose foetus she removed. The baby girl survived.

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Reply #2 - Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:46pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:42pm:
Thank God the baby at least survived this. Now she has to grow up knowing she was ripped out of her mum's stomach before she was even born...

Who knows... She might become a priestess prophet... After all, an unusual birth is a sign... is it not... of the 'wondrous will of god'.
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Reply #3 - Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:48pm
 
That is the result of slackness in immigration policy.
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Reply #4 - Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:51pm
 
it is?

How so?

More like the result of a society which absolutely worships personal freedom and individualism. In which self-gratification is god, and everything else is secondary, even if it means cutting your friend open and swiping her baby...

Diagnosis, sick society, in need of a moral booster.
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Reply #5 - Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:54pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 30th, 2009 at 11:51pm:
it is?

How so?

More like the result of a society which absolutely worships personal freedom and individualism. In which self-gratification is god, and everything else is secondary, even if it means cutting your friend open and swiping her baby...

Diagnosis, sick society, in need of a moral booster.

Like child soldiers and suicide bombers, decapitations and stonings to death.

There's nothing we cannay do.
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Reply #6 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:16am
 

yes abu, these events are terrible.
I suggest the action of a deeply disturbed person. Mentally disturbed.

to highlight them and have an ongoing discussion on them tends to encourage it.
So I tend to not highlight them.
However, as you show true islamic tendancies, I will comment on this one thread on this sort of topic.

the reporting of this shows a free media. Whether I like it or not on this occassion.
This is what happened, and this is what is reported.

I don't feel this is condoned by this society.
I don't think this indicates anything apart from a mentally disturbed person and a free media.
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Reply #7 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:43am
 
helian,

One is a symptom of a society pushed to the edge of survival by encroaching invading dominating forces.

The other is a symptom of a society so bored to death and self-centred, it doesn't know what next to do in order to reach a 'new high'.

Hardly comparable.

All people when placed in strained circumstances will resort to extreme measures....
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Reply #8 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:45am
 
sprint,

right... the ol' "Actually it's good such things exist as they demonstrate the openness of our society argument". Whatever makes you feel a little better inside yourself.

The West needs to wake up and realise something is going seriously wrong with the all out freedom line... It's turning people into monsters, into uncontrollable animals, plain and simple.
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Reply #9 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:59am
 

abu - no, the reporting of such incidents does not make me feel better.
It DOES show an freedom of the media. To and well past the point of any concievable benefit
The reporting of this does not help anyone or anything I can reasonably imagine.
The event happened, that is all.
Same as a car that crashes into a flooded creek and all the people in the car drown.

freedom does not turn people into monsters.
people are just people. Not all people are good.
the legal system tries to limit the effects of the bad people amongst us.

I prefer it that the legal system AND the media coverage are in different hands.
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Reply #10 - Jul 31st, 2009 at 7:46am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 31st, 2009 at 12:43am:
helian,

One is a symptom of a society pushed to the edge of survival by encroaching invading dominating forces.

The other is a symptom of a society so bored to death and self-centred, it doesn't know what next to do in order to reach a 'new high'.

Hardly comparable.

All people when placed in strained circumstances will resort to extreme measures....

Hacking the foetus from a dead woman's uterus is the act of a deranged psychopath and is no more the upshot of an egocentric and bored society than beheading an apostate is the divine expression of an all-merciful god.
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