Calanen wrote on Jul 30
th, 2009 at 11:06pm:
It is an important lesson in the mindset of Islam:
'Never back down, ever,'
So there is no point in discussing things with muslims, they never make even the slightest concession, they will just jump from excuse to new excuse. Realise this is their mindset, and you are a long way to understanding them.
While we constantly have people 'supposedly' on our side criticising our society, they almost have no one criticising them. There are a number of reasons for this, the first is that being a muslim that criticises other muslims may lead to you being killed - the second is this idea of never take a backward step, die on the battlements, concede nothing to infidels ever.
But it's never Abu I would try to convince. I couldn't convince him at gun point. It's the lurkers watching I want to convince by slaying his arguments. Abu will never agree with anything I say, no matter how reasonable, well argued, coherent, well sourced, proven and legitimate.
Remember that, and you have learnt lesson 1 of understanding Muslims.
For some reason, moslems cannot hear TRUTH.
To their mind ISLAM is correct,
ONLY moslems are 'rightly guided', by ISLAM,
....and non-moslems are always 'guilty', and
wrong
.
Moslems are engaging in, have embraced,
a philosophy of denial of reality, and TRUTH.Part 067 - Dilemma of Muhammadan Muslimshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dd7adRI5q4Part 188A - Islam's Culture of DENIALhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSXMuJMuUH0Part 188B - Islam's Culture of DENIALhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWmy1BHZTTY++++++++++++
John 8:38
I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
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According to abu Christians are 'intolerant', and intolerance, is the 'fruit' of Chistianity.
Here, abu whines, about the intolerance of Christians,
"By their fruits shall ye know them... is it not?""UK Police Must Wear Scarf in Mosques"http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1248858366/10#10abu,
TALKING OF FRUITS....
An 'old' news report....
18 April 2007
Up to 200 killed in Baghdad bombs
Nearly 200 people have been killed in a string of attacks in Iraq's capital, Baghdad - the worst day of violence since a US security operation began.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6560589.stmAnd today, 2009-Aug-01, a 'new' news report....
Bombs explode in multiple Shia mosques in Bagdad, Iraq,
dozens [of moslems] killed.
THE RELIGION OF PEACE
http://thereligionofpeace.com/abu,
Who's bombs exploded in those six mosques?
Moslem bombs, set by devout moslems.
Moslem bombs, killing moslems.
And yet, all the while, the Jihadists [the REAL moslems!] and their apologists, falsely accuse non-muslims, and the 'West', of being The Great Satan, and of being an enemy, which moslems must make war with, and defeat...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_SatanSat, August 26, 2006
When Muslims kill Muslims
By SALIM MANSUR
The most famous massacre in Muslim history by armed might of the state took place at Karbala...
Husayn's male companions were slaughtered by the army of Yazid, the caliph (Islam's supreme ruler), while women and children in the company of Husayn, including his wife and daughter, were abused and carried as war trophies to the capital of the expanding Arab-Islamic empire in Damascus.
......Karbala is a necessary reminder of Muslims being unequalled tormentors and killers of Muslims......
......Nor is Iraq the only place where Muslim violence against Muslims rages unabated. There is Darfur in Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Algeria until recently, and hotspots in Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia and Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Mansur_Salim/2006/08/26/1777155.html++++++++++
Proverbs 1:22
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
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29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
31
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.Fruits abu, fruits.
Quote:"Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices."