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From Somalia with "peace"
Aug 4th, 2009 at 9:08am
 
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federal and state police, armed with search warrants, swooped on members of the suspected terror cell this morning, as they seek to arrest Australian nationals of Somali and Lebanese background in what will be the second-largest counter-terrorism operation in the nation's history.
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Members of the group have been observed carrying out surveillance of Holsworthy Barracks in western Sydney and other suspicious activity around defence bases in Victoria.
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The cell has been inspired by the Somalia-based terrorist movement al-Shabaab...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25879579-2,00.html

I wonder what religion they would be?

Note: the question is rhetorical.



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Reply #1 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 9:27am
 

My guess is they are ........ athiests !!!
No, athisets don't do that. Probably have never done that.

Wiccans !!!!! - No, they don't do that either.
Suicide christians - nope, terrorist christians have existed, but pretty rare and no suicide ones.

The rare eastern drivnots. no - they don't exist !
hahhahaha
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Reply #2 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 9:30am
 
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Al-Shabaab, which is using suicide bombers and jihadist fighters to try to overthrow the Somali government, seeks to impose a pure, hardline form of Islam, and sees the West as its enemy. It has been declared a terrorist organisation by the US and it has close links with al-Qa'ida leaders, including Fazul Abdullah Mohammed, an architect of the 1998 attacks on the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in which 223 people died.


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Reply #3 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 10:45am
 

Now, there is a psychological significance to this statement.
I have heard it before.
Whyever would anyone say such a weird thing?
Who are the "valued islamics" in aussie ?
What "community" are they a part of ?

With me, any islamic is not valued in my community.




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........Supporting this, Victoria Police Commissioner Simon Overland said: "I can assure the Victorian community that we are doing everything in our power to ensure the state remains one of the safest in the country.''

Mr Overland said police acted after it "got to a point where we decided it was appropriate to act".

Mr Overland stressed the overwhelming number of Islamic people in Australia and Melbourne were valued members of the community, not terrorists.


http://www.smh.com.au/national/four-arrested-as-400-police-mount-counter-terrori...
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Reply #4 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 2:50pm
 
Australia foils suicide attack on army base, four arrested: police

Australian police have arrested four people with alleged links to Somali Islamists who were planning a suicide attack on a military base, senior officers said on Tuesday.

"The alleged offenders were prepared to inflict a sustained attack on military personnel until they themselves were killed," said Tony Negus, acting chief commissioner of the Australian Federal Police.

"The men's intentions was to go into these army barracks and to kill as many people as possible.... This would have been, if it had been able to be carried out, the most serious attack on Australian soil," he added.

The suspects of Somali and Lebanese descent were arrested in a series of raids across the southeastern state of Victoria, Negus said.

He said the attack would have been carried out with firearms rather than explosives and added the group had been seeking a "fatwah" to justify its actions.

"Members of the group have been actively seeking a fatwah or religious ruling to justify a terror attack on Australia," Negus said.

Negus said members of the group had links with Somalia's Al-Qaeda-inspired Shebab group, which is fighting a deadly insurgency against that country's government.

http://www.france24.com/en/20090804-australia-foils-suicide-attack-army-base-fou...

[The target was Holsworthy. Cowardly animals.]
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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.
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Reply #5 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 5:23pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 4th, 2009 at 10:45am:
Now, there is a psychological significance to this statement.
I have heard it before.
Whyever would anyone say such a weird thing?
Who are the "valued islamics" in aussie ?
What "community" are they a part of ?
With me, any islamic is not valued in my community.
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........Supporting this, Victoria Police Commissioner Simon Overland said: "I can assure the Victorian community that we are doing everything in our power to ensure the state remains one of the safest in the country.''
Mr Overland said police acted after it "got to a point where we decided it was appropriate to act".
Mr Overland stressed the overwhelming number of Islamic people in Australia and Melbourne were valued members of the community, not terrorists.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/four-arrested-as-400-police-mount-counter-terrori...


Indeed. I wonder why overwhelming muslims wouldn't overwhelm  their errant brothers?

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Reply #6 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 6:26pm
 
tallowood wrote on Aug 4th, 2009 at 5:23pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 4th, 2009 at 10:45am:
Now, there is a psychological significance to this statement.
I have heard it before.
Whyever would anyone say such a weird thing?
Who are the "valued islamics" in aussie ?
What "community" are they a part of ?
With me, any islamic is not valued in my community.
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........Supporting this, Victoria Police Commissioner Simon Overland said: "I can assure the Victorian community that we are doing everything in our power to ensure the state remains one of the safest in the country.''
Mr Overland said police acted after it "got to a point where we decided it was appropriate to act".
Mr Overland stressed the overwhelming number of Islamic people in Australia and Melbourne were valued members of the community, not terrorists.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/four-arrested-as-400-police-mount-counter-terrori...


Indeed. I wonder why overwhelming muslims wouldn't overwhelm  their errant brothers?




This is what I thought too.
Just talk, because it has to be said that way.

Our democratic rights gag us so well you don't need anything else!
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Reply #7 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 6:37pm
 
Re: Melbourne terrorist raids

"First define for me what terrorism means. I was under the impression it referred to attacks on civilians..." (c) abu

Terrorism means islam. I based my definition on the undeniable fact that it is in islam. Check for yourself

BTW, my question in previous post is answered by abu too.
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Reply #8 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 10:10pm
 

Happy - Guess what , I like cops.

Maybe that cop "emphasised" there is no reflection of "terrorists" with "Islam"  on purpose.
there probably is no cause to associate ISLAM with TERRORISM.

At all.
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Reply #9 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 11:06pm
 
On the one hand, we shouldn't draw any relationship between Islam and terrorism, but on the other hand, all Australians should accept a tightening of laws to accomodate the threats to the nation that these terrorists pose, who just co-incidently happen to be islamic.
They can't have it both ways.
We need a referendum to ban Islam now.





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Reply #10 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 11:06pm
 
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This really shows us that the facade around the definition of terrorism is beginning to crack wide open doesn't it.

NATO troops firing on and murdering dozens of civilians at a time, is _not_ terrorism, yet Muslims alledgedly plotting to target an army base _is_ terrorism... interesting. About the only factor which seems to change in those two cases, is whether Muslims are the victims or the perpetrators... So Muslim civilian victims are collateral damage, or regrettable casualties, or even human shields, if we really wanna open up the propaganda taps and get the bovine faeces flowing, whilst Muslim perpetrators are always terrorists...

Interesting indeed.



The interesting thing is that propagandists like our reident pseudo-moor never tire of rolling out the Muslims-are-victims trope every time their co-religionists engage in yet one more despicable act. Every time a Muslim is caught doing some crazy or barbaric things, the Abu Rashid/Keyzar Trad/your-imam-here brigade rushes out with the we-are-the-victims schtik.
They are not victims of anything but each other.

And every time a Muslim does something crazy or despicable in non-muslim countries, they roll out that other stock response of the seasoned apologist for Muslim terrorists, the 'infidels-in-muslim-lands' excuse. Never hear about Muslims-in-infidel-lands'. The Barbary pirates, I mean victims, enslaved a million Europeans until the US navy put an end to that particular Muslim menace, I mean victimhood. Never hear about it from the Muslim 'victims'.

Or what about this:

“Where the French presence lasted fewer than four years before they were ignominiously expelled by the British and Turks, the Ottomans had been the masters of Egypt since 1517, a total of 280 years. Even if we count the later British and French protectorates, Egypt was under Western control for sixty-seven years, Syria for twenty-one years, and Iraq for only fifteen — and, of course, Saudi Arabia was never under Western control. Contrast this with southern Spain, which was under the Muslim yoke for 781 years, Greece for 381 years, and the splendid new Christian capital that eclipsed Rome — Byzantium — which is still in Muslim hands. But no Spanish or Greek politics of victimhood apparently exist.”

Abu Rashid and Keysar Trad and their ilk do a very thorough job of removing any remaing association between the words 'muslim' and 'credible'.i



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Reply #11 - Aug 4th, 2009 at 11:40pm
 
Of course Abu, like any muslim, doesn't understand that they must be loyal to Australia, and not the political ideals of Islam.
Muslims will always be loyal to Islam, yet leech of the hard work of others. Australia has no future with the muslims.








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Reply #12 - Aug 5th, 2009 at 8:30am
 

I am sure muslim chat room will be praying for this load of wannabe terrorists.
They were for the last terrorists.

Abu did not speak out against the alleged terrorists either.

it's quite sickening really.
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Reply #13 - Aug 5th, 2009 at 9:11am
 
The Somali community did speak out about the planned attack and condemned it. A couple of the men were Australian citizens though and this is what is so disappointing. Apparently the Somali's involved were recruited, although they weren't Muslims when they arrived here. I'm surprised the Muslim community hasn't said anything.


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Yesterday Sydney's small Somali community was in shock, angry that a small group could allegedly try to bring to Australia the very violence they had fled.

In Auburn - one of the hubs for the 3000-strong community - several Somali men gathered to discuss the shocking news.

"They are slaughtering people in Somalia. Mogadishu is a no-go zone. Now they have finished with that they come to our country, soiling our names. Why do they want to do that?" one man, Siraji Osman, said.

The men arrested yesterday are all from Melbourne where the bulk of the 15,000 Somalis in Australia live.

Community leader Nasar Ogle from the Somali Islamic Cultural Centre said he was disappointed and unhappy about the alleged terror plot. "If these people were trying to do anything to Australia we should do whatever we can do to stop that and protect the country," he said.

Saada Abdikarim, a mother-of-four who assists new Somali migrants settle in, said that the negative stigma would be yet another problem her people would face.

"Obviously people will look at us differently," she said.

"People say, 'You're Somali, you're a terrorist'. No one wants to be labelled with that."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/arrogance-and-utter-contempt-sydney-under-...



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Reply #14 - Aug 5th, 2009 at 9:36am
 

Australian citizens ?? That means a piece of paper.

muslims do not speak out against any other muslims.
It is one of their perverse ideas.
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